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# 191
11-18-2012, 08:24 PM
Read halfway through this epic bread

::loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong sigh::

I thought I had a chance to get MK XII gear sets finally. I guess not. Reading this just took all the wind out of my sails. I'll just stay underpowered with my toons and play just for the ACTUAL story content and Foundry missions.

I dont understand you Cryptic/PWE. Crushing our Star Trek souls with eternal grind is not the way to make a profit from us. Enjoy that $50 I just gave you for my Vesta 3 pack. You wont be seeing more from me for a looooooong time, if ever.
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# 192
11-18-2012, 09:28 PM
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epic bread
[Homer Simpson]


mmmm epic bread...


[/Homer Simpson]
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# 193
11-18-2012, 11:52 PM
have no fear. apparently there might be some change in the wind. i wouldn't mind settling for the compromise of shorter project times for all (reputation, equipment requisition, and store unlocks) but higher omega marks and expertise costs per project. that compromise would certainly get my stamp of approval.

other compromise: short time and resource unlock, much heavier requisition requirements and costs.

anyone have any other suggestions?
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# 194
11-19-2012, 12:33 AM
Make item projects an upgrade project so it doesn't block leveling.

Make items worth getting; forget 30 k dil for a 4150 EC green item.
Make security team a permanent item ofc balance it for it in price, cooldown and whatever.

Let people convert omega marks for dil. from tier 1, with a low timer, so you have a reason to play stf and can interact with the rep regularly instead of 1 time every 2 days.

Kill timers on item projects.

Let people see what they are getting, why can't I read the stats off items like I can everywhere else in the game?
Hoover over item = description, plus I'd really like to see what the item looks before I commit to anything.
I guess y'all assumed that wasn't necessary since we already know what the old gear is lmao

Items you can buy once you reach the tier should be placed under the store tab, not under projects.
Consumables, fighters etc (I realize other items have 2 more unlocks to go after you reach the tier and then unlock the permission).

I probably forgot something too, I will get back to you


/edit

Oh yeah you could even consider letting people work on their exp when turning in omega marks or add a "free project" like the embassy one - main idea being you don't feel stuck in the mud for 2 days with zero to do
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# 195
11-19-2012, 01:59 AM
I, myself, am still puzzled about why the previous stuff they converted to marks is locked in a box until tier 3. For those of us who maxed XI gear but weren't lucky enough to get to the XII stuff, this system actively penalizes us.

Instead of getting any credit whatsoever for all the grinding we did up to this point, we are told we now have to do it all over again, but with additional expenses.

As a Lifer, at least I'm not paying monthly for this garbage. I'm sure the people who like the system have their reasons for doing so, but what irritates me the most is the defenders toss out every logical argument against the system as 'whining'.
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# 196
11-19-2012, 02:10 AM
That's an easy one, you simply have no reason to play stf at all if you had the marks to gate your character. Half the server going afk.

Same reason the rep system cannot be account wide, naturally they want you playing as many stfs as possible.

For me it's to the point that I would gladly give away my MK XII drops to everyone if we could have our game back.
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# 197
11-19-2012, 02:26 AM
I am on my way to completing Tier 1 of Omega reputation. Then I read this thread and the posts in it.

Frankly, I am rather disappointed at the amount of time and resources players have to put in just to get some good gear. Not to mention that if you are already in a fleet, projects for both Fleet Bases and your personal Reputation will take extra long if you split up resources. So its either you devote everything to the Fleet Base or your Reputation.

Perhaps I will just stop playing Star Trek Online for awhile and see if Cryptic will make major adjustments to the Reputation system. Or I can just forgo the Reputation system and contribute to the Fleet Base all the way.
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# 198
11-19-2012, 02:40 AM
During Season 6 - Logged time - almost every day for 4 to 5hrs, on occasion spent anywhere between $30 to $75 dollars a month. I ran STF for enjoyment and farming D - Several Mk XII Proto for several of my toons.


Come Season 7 & the introduction of the New Rep System - once or twice a week for 30minutes apiece - so far spent $10 dollars on the Steam Pack for the Steamrunner, tried the new system, looked at it, too much of a ingame cost for me to invest in. - Mk XII sets were once free - Now they will cost and arm & a leg with excessive waiting period per piece.

I never looked back at the STFs again -

You all understand where I am coming from.

Only ones that will enjoy this are those that are new to STO and new to the system.

Currently playing Terra Online & GW2

1/2hr STO time on Sat & on Mondays - Fleet projects down the drain - I have no more time to waste on STO.

Last edited by stark2k; 11-19-2012 at 03:41 AM.
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# 199 so depressed
11-19-2012, 02:53 AM
i cryed agian today all the fun gone replaced buy nothing but grind sign on and decide wich grind to do dilith grind omaga grind new romulan grind. used to be fun to do the stf what drop will i get? somthing for fleet bank? item me or a friend could realy use?? somthing to sell and get ec or dilith for? or the joy and pride of the tech drop and rushing to turn in and get the shiney new pice to complet my set??? now its just grind and wait days to see what i can spend my dwindleing suply of dilith on!!!!! in the words of Adam Sandler " whooopie f-ing dooo " I sold a ring that i dont wear but still had great sentimental value to me for lifetime membership. I feel so riped off cheated. This season jsut keeps getting worse not better. ive been known to play 15 or 20 hours a day on weekend but now after a couple hrs im so bored and depressed i leave and dont comeback till the next day. how could any sane person call this crap an impovement????
I will never ever spend another dime of real world money on this game ever ever ever ever.
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# 200
11-19-2012, 03:00 AM
I'm also in the same boat that I don't want to monetarily fund STO any longer. I don't feel like giving my real money to them, like I use to, with the current level of gameplay and enjoyment. I am spending less time in the game post-S7, instead of more time, so it makes sense to also spend less money, which for me, is going to be no money. My money is important, I watch where each dime goes, in the past I could justify some of it going to STO, there was a return on investment, but I can't anymore /shrug

Let me put it this way, normally in the past, I'd have the "new ship" by now (i.e. the Vesta). But now, I'm just going to wait till my free Zen I get every month adds up on its own to get the bundle, it'll take 9 months currently, for it to add up to 5,000 Zen for the full bundle (unless there's a sale), but that's exactly what I'm going to do, wait, and not spend a dime on Zen.
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