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# 21
11-16-2012, 05:18 PM
Nah, we Feds have no illusions of being the strongest...in this game we are the weakest...it's a matter of fact.
But our weakness makes us stronger because we always try to improve!
After a fierce battle against the evuls a Fed Captain needs some relax!
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# 22
11-16-2012, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by starwrathforever View Post
Nah, we Feds have no illusions of being the strongest...in this game we are the weakest...it's a matter of fact.
But our weakness makes us stronger because we always try to improve!
What exactly is this fact based on? Your opinion? Hate to break it to you, but that is not what a "fact" is.
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# 23
11-17-2012, 06:22 AM
The evil Klinguns have the most powerful cruisers, the most agile escorts and the most spamming carriers...more offensive toy consoles, advanced cloaks, DHC everywhere, extremely sucking abilities, universal Boffs...ok, that's enough!
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# 24
11-17-2012, 08:17 AM
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The evil Klinguns have the most powerful cruisers, the most agile escorts and the most spamming carriers...more offensive toy consoles, advanced cloaks, DHC everywhere, extremely sucking abilities, universal Boffs...ok, that's enough!
KDF has more DPS oriented cruisers, yes.

KDF has the bop, which is more agile, yes, but the BoP is considerably less survivable verse any other Fed escort.

KDF has the raptor/bop (a tin can with warp nacelles) @ BG/RA.
FED has 2 options @ BG. Patrol/Fleet.

KDF LG Garumba/Brel


FED VA Tact refit, multi-vector, heavy escort.

Fed fleet - 8 options, some with 5 tact consoles.

KDF fleet - 8 options, none with 5 tact consoles or LTC anything other than tact.

KDF has 1 science ship.
Fed has a dozen options.
***Some with LTC Eng/Tact options! Highest shield mods in GAME. ECT ECT ECT ECT.
Only Science that can load cannons and a fighter bay.

KDF 2 FDCs (1 fleet/1 none) Both are solid ships but no cloak on either and they cannot load cannons.

KDF 2 carriers - karfi/Voquv. Both are decent if that's your play style.
Reasonable options to fit various gameplay styles.

Siphons - simple solution is kvk, if you see them, load them on a carrier if you have one.
Siphons - Don't use them in fvk, broeken advantage nerfed.

Fed
Cat box - never played it but similar to kdf.
escort carrier - da-noobs + tact. Not game changing but 1-2-3 people spamming 1 or 2 bays is extremely annoying whether fvf or kvf.

KDF ships have less/same shields and maybe slightly less/more/same (vorcha) hull, but most are slower/same as fed counterparts. Only advantage is the cloak and DHCs but DHCs on a cruiser other than the vorcha is worthless against most escort, sci, cruiser pilots since CRF1/Dem is the only real threat but the CDs are extremely long. Only except is the fleet vorcha.

KDF has KHG which is a great shield if you have high tier shield heals. The placate is the only other advantage but trivial at game end. I prefer a capx3 resilient or omega over KHG.

Fed has MACO. Extra power, resilient, 10% resist to all energy types.

Each side has a unique, but not a game changing difference. The general quality of federation players is the issue. Instead of trying to improve their gameplay they b!@#$ about battle cloaks, fatter ships that turn worth a $#%& running cannons, ect ect.

Hate to be a negative Nancy, but instead of crying about KDF in everyone of your post, maybe consider you could learn a few things, team with a better group... idk... It seems to be if you find the average fvf more challenging/fun, perhaps you have your bar a little too low to be complaining about more seasoned players on the KDF side???

That said, I played my silly feds last night, matches were all a walk in the park. Boring!

Only had 1 good match in fvf and even then it wasn't very challenging. My exploration healer which still has 2/3 rare/uncommon doffs, was rarely in trouble of dying. Even when under fire from the other teams 2 or 3 bug ships.

The only other match that was half decent was a kvk /w 2 from SOB (bug/bop,) a galor and recluse with AAs, AMS, and probably some other random things. However, even losing our only source of heals (toward the end of) the match was 15/6.
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# 25
11-17-2012, 08:54 AM
I love starwrath's posts. They add some needed tongue-in-cheek humor on these forums. It's good to read something that isn't another rage fest.

Keep up the good fight, man.

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# 26
11-17-2012, 09:30 AM
Don't worry..."I am constant as the northern star..."
Evil Klinguns!
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# 27
11-20-2012, 06:43 AM
Anyone stating that the game is balanced is a fool. Not to sound too harsh but you are. the only way to play the game as close to being balance is to fight against the same faction. i disagree with a lot that is being said here, i am almost always in a team that seems to fight until the bitter end and 99% of the time the KDF win 15-0. i dont know if it is possible to show the official statistics but i would literally place my testicles on the line in a bet that the kdf win a hell of a lot more than the feds.

i play both kdf and fed and when i play as kdf in pvp i have an easy time in almost any ship. i sit there and shoot, no tactics just shoot. as a fed player you have to spam every boff ability to stay alive.

again people are fooling themselves if they think that kdf players are just naturally more skilled at pvp just because of kdf content, that is rubbish. i would bet that most fed players also have klingon characters and vise versa.

if you seriously think that it is balanced then im not sure that you understand what the word actually means. but as i stated i only pvp queue against feds now and it is a hell of a lot more fun.

i hope this catches on so that the constant unfair rapage stops.

i think that one of the most fun aspects of the game, however, is to sit in a bop at kerrat cloaked and pray on poor fed cruisers even when outnumbered 4 feds to 1 klingon because you can almost always get away alive just after a kill. so much fun lol
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# 28
11-20-2012, 07:27 AM
Shhh...Fed comrade...you've to whisper...the evil Klinguns can hear you...

You can also bet that thing in the middle of the testicles, you won't lose it!
After a fierce battle against the evuls a Fed Captain needs some relax!

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# 29
11-20-2012, 08:20 AM
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Anyone stating that the game is balanced is a fool. Not to sound too harsh but you are. the only way to play the game as close to being balance is to fight against the same faction. i disagree with a lot that is being said here, i am almost always in a team that seems to fight until the bitter end and 99% of the time the KDF win 15-0. i dont know if it is possible to show the official statistics but i would literally place my testicles on the line in a bet that the kdf win a hell of a lot more than the feds.

i play both kdf and fed and when i play as kdf in pvp i have an easy time in almost any ship. i sit there and shoot, no tactics just shoot. as a fed player you have to spam every boff ability to stay alive.

again people are fooling themselves if they think that kdf players are just naturally more skilled at pvp just because of kdf content, that is rubbish. i would bet that most fed players also have klingon characters and vise versa.

if you seriously think that it is balanced then im not sure that you understand what the word actually means. but as i stated i only pvp queue against feds now and it is a hell of a lot more fun.

i hope this catches on so that the constant unfair rapage stops.

i think that one of the most fun aspects of the game, however, is to sit in a bop at kerrat cloaked and pray on poor fed cruisers even when outnumbered 4 feds to 1 klingon because you can almost always get away alive just after a kill. so much fun lol
Misinformation much?

Fact is, most fed players that Q fvk (not all of course,) don't use tact team, don't use epts, run into battle with RSP up.... And yeah I'm suppose to believe that KDF ships kill them only because the ships are OP and some can battle cloak???

And OH NOE! Battle cloaking tin cans! Wait for them to decloak. Little secret, a bop has almost no shield power for a few seconds after decloaking... sshhh. Only the kdf knows this so don't tell your fed comrades!



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# 30
11-20-2012, 08:53 AM
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Anyone stating that the game is balanced is a fool. Not to sound too harsh but you are. the only way to play the game as close to being balance is to fight against the same faction. i disagree with a lot that is being said here, i am almost always in a team that seems to fight until the bitter end and 99% of the time the KDF win 15-0. i dont know if it is possible to show the official statistics but i would literally place my testicles on the line in a bet that the kdf win a hell of a lot more than the feds.
Lay them up and they will be smashed.
The KDF players are not OP compared to the Feds. It is a lie that has grown to be accepted as truth by those feds whom feel that we are OP becuase they do not do well against us more often than they would like.

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i play both kdf and fed and when i play as kdf in pvp i have an easy time in almost any ship. i sit there and shoot, no tactics just shoot. as a fed player you have to spam every boff ability to stay alive.
I do the same thing when I slum it and play my Tac in a Defiant-R. So by this the feds are OP becuase its too easy to tank, kill and just plain PvP as a fed when I do so.

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again people are fooling themselves if they think that kdf players are just naturally more skilled at pvp just because of kdf content, that is rubbish. i would bet that most fed players also have klingon characters and vise versa.
And they are fooling themselves if they believe the feds are at a disadvantage in PvP.

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if you seriously think that it is balanced then im not sure that you understand what the word actually means. but as i stated i only pvp queue against feds now and it is a hell of a lot more fun.
Which is fine. Have fun.

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i hope this catches on so that the constant unfair rapage stops.
LOL- thats why FvF was invented back when the Klingon where a little OP and all we had to do was PvP. The feds cried and the FvF que was born.

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i think that one of the most fun aspects of the game, however, is to sit in a bop at kerrat cloaked and pray on poor fed cruisers even when outnumbered 4 feds to 1 klingon because you can almost always get away alive just after a kill. so much fun lol
Do it in a Defiant-R, and you will not have to leave after the first kill.

The KDF is not OP, though we do have our advantages just like the feds have thiers to seperate the gameplay some. Otherwise only the vessels are different and not by much.
The feds get better escorts and we KDF get better Battle Cruisers, but even then it can vary as many fed Cruisers are very good and the new fleet Raptors help the KDF escort defficiency. We have Siphon Drones and the feds have Danubes.
We both have access to cloaking.
After that there is no difference as all the powers are the same across the board for Players to use according to thier class.
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