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# 31
09-24-2012, 09:23 PM
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Which ship is that? There's no Fleet Vor'Cha listed either here or here.
He's talking about either the Tor'kaht or the K'Tinga. Of course they didn't give us a Fleet Vor'cha, they might've had to actually give us a friggin discount then. Can't be having that, now. So they'll just upgrade the K'Tinga and also create an entirely new cruiser model called the Tor'kaht.
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# 32
09-25-2012, 05:53 AM
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He's talking about either the Tor'kaht or the K'Tinga. Of course they didn't give us a Fleet Vor'cha, they might've had to actually give us a friggin discount then. Can't be having that, now. So they'll just upgrade the K'Tinga and also create an entirely new cruiser model called the Tor'kaht.
The real shaft'in was that the skin for the Tor'kaht was once an option on the Vorcha refit until the Fleet version was created, then said option disapeered.
SO even though we could buy a Vorcha refit from the Cstore we never got a discount for something that used to be an option.
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# 33
09-26-2012, 12:31 AM
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Which ship is that? There's no Fleet Vor'Cha listed either here or here.
Fleet Vor'cha
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# 34
11-19-2012, 09:28 PM
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Fleet Tor'Kaht.

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# 35
11-20-2012, 02:10 AM
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and while it does have a potentially powerful BO setup, it does have drawbacks that make me shy away from it and wonder what it's supposed to be good at.
It's exceptional at blowing up.
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# 36
11-20-2012, 02:19 AM
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It may not be diminishing returns but the fact is when you add a 4th console the dps only increases by about 90 on each DHC. I suspect the total increase in dps on a 4 DHC 3 Turret escort, after power drain, is probably no more than 400 dps. I wouldn't sacrifice an armor console or shield capacity console for that little gain.

A dead ship does 0 dps.
Many Tac DPS buffs are multiplicative and scale extremely well with the extra damage of a 5th console. That's why a 5 console ship in PvP has an alpha that hits like a truck.

I'd sacrifice an amor or shield console any day of the week. Staying alive isn't that hard. As you said, a dead ship does 0 DPS, and a 5 tac console ship excels at making enemy ships dead,

I'm personally hoping they add the Pach Raptor as a new fleet ship and give it a 5 tac console layout.
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# 37
11-20-2012, 02:22 AM
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Many Tac DPS buffs are multiplicative and scale extremely well with the extra damage of a 5th console. That's why a 5 console ship in PvP has an alpha that hits like a truck.

I'd sacrifice an amor or shield console any day of the week. Staying alive isn't that hard. As you said, a dead ship does 0 DPS, and a 5 tac console ship excels at making enemy ships dead,

I'm personally hoping they add the Pach Raptor as a new fleet ship and give it a 5 tac console layout.
Presuming, that is, you can actually APPLY that firepower. KDF has ONE ship with 5 tac consoles, and it handles like a city bus with flat tyres and bad brakes.
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# 38
11-20-2012, 10:20 AM
It is also worth noting that the KDF has no vessel with 5 science consoles. The Tac Bortas has 5 tac consoles, along with the Engineering Bortas and Fleet Negh'var having 5 engineering consoles.

That said, they really do need a new escort level ship with 5 tac consoles. I don't like the look of the Pach myself, but I would go with if it meant we would have a rough equal to the Fleet Defiant.

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# 39
11-20-2012, 11:01 AM
What the KDF side needs is raptors being on par with Fed Side Tier 5 escorts.

And a good Tier 5 Science ship.

But here we are. Talking and rehashing the same stuff yet again. Apathy setting in again. Or not. Whatever.
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# 40
11-20-2012, 09:01 PM
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It is also worth noting that the KDF has no vessel with 5 science consoles. The Tac Bortas has 5 tac consoles, along with the Engineering Bortas and Fleet Negh'var having 5 engineering consoles.

That said, they really do need a new escort level ship with 5 tac consoles. I don't like the look of the Pach myself, but I would go with if it meant we would have a rough equal to the Fleet Defiant.
The Pach has a reskin you can get that's sick, which is what I'd go for. I don't like the baseline skin.
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