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# 21
11-26-2012, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
We all know what this is about, right?

So, ask yourself this simple scorecard and rate your honest commitment on a virtual scale of your commitment to the longevity of PvP.

  1. I actively seek out to exploit powers when I know that they are currently deemed as broken, and go to great lengths to justify them as ok, both to myself and others.

  2. I use console powers not necessarily because of their damage potential which I know is not great, but the unintended side effects of lag they do cause to another player.

  3. "I" must survive.

  4. I would rather save that HE for myself that extend it to a team mate.

  5. I spawn camp before moving away, not allowing the other side to advance.

  6. When someone brutally kills me, I insult them via PM or zone chat, instead of PM them afterwards to congratulate them.

  7. I find it easier to blame the devs for the system, but am still quite "innocent", happily running three SNB (take your pick) doffs.

Scary looking in the mirror? I know I was.
1. No. I do not use broken stuff but I have no problems using some p2w like leech. I have my own morals on what I use. I stay away from certain consoles and I do not use broken stuff like the TBR bug or voldi.

2. I never cause lag intentionally.

3. Yes and no. Survival is important in the arena, I don't care that much about dying in cnh. But even in the arena most of the time I don't even try run. I stay, fight, use my heals and if it is not enough I die.

4. Depends on the situation and what I am playing. As a healer I generally heal everybody. In an escort I am more focused on killing. Most of the time I only share heals if I know my team or if we have voice chat and someone asks for help.
Also there are players that are not worth healing. If someone doesn't even distribute shields and doesn't use epts... Most of the times I try anyway at first, but sometimes trying to heal them results in more deaths because the heals are on cd and someone who could be saved dies because of it.

5. I try not to spawn camp. But it is often damn hard against fed as a klink. They just refuse to leave the spawn no matter what. You can fly at normal impulse speed the whole way to their spawn and often nobody moved.

6. No. But if someone insults me I might be tempted to make a little fun of him.

7. The devs give us the system we have to work with. We can offer feedback, try to set up our own rules but in the end we are bound to what they give us.
Now in a quite popular book it says: "And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also."
Which is a load of crap in my opinion. I am more the eye for an eye kind of guy. While I still have my morals and refuse to use everything at my disposal I still use some of the toys cryptic gives me. In a private match (if we get those back) I am ok with no consoles rules and such but in the queues I will use some of my toys.
And honestly, the game would be rather boring with no changes. Nothing is ever new in pvp, all we get are more ships and consoles. At least it gives you something to do, new builds to try, new ships to fly.
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# 22
11-26-2012, 04:11 AM
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1. No. I do not use broken stuff but I have no problems using some p2w like leech. I have my own morals on what I use. I stay away from certain consoles and I do not use broken stuff like the TBR bug or voldi.
Quick question. Haven't they fixed how consoles were affecting TBR?
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# 23
11-26-2012, 04:17 AM
Yes they fixed it. It was just an example of a recent bug.
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# 24
11-26-2012, 04:41 AM
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Yes they fixed it. It was just an example of a recent bug.
Ah thanks, I thought so. You had me second guessing myself there for a minute.
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# 25
11-26-2012, 05:47 AM
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  1. I actively seek out to exploit powers when I know that they are currently deemed as broken, and go to great lengths to justify them as ok, both to myself and others.
  1. I do not use Consoles that I know to be broken. I will use those that are "bitched" about but not broken, in my opinion, in Ker'rat.
    I avoid using broken powers as much as possible and wish the game would stop breaking them so often.


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  2. I use console powers not necessarily because of their damage potential which I know is not great, but the unintended side effects of lag they do cause to another player.
  3. I live and play in lagg why would I wish that upon another. No, I use consoles for thier abilities not how they may disable the game.
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  4. "I" must survive.
  5. That is the objective......


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  6. I would rather save that HE for myself that extend it to a team mate.
  7. Too late. I have already used it on others.

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  8. I spawn camp before moving away, not allowing the other side to advance.
  9. In Ker'rat I shoot as soon as I see the phasers fly.......


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  10. When someone brutally kills me, I insult them via PM or zone chat, instead of PM them afterwards to congratulate them.
  11. No, I do not.


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  12. I find it easier to blame the devs for the system, but am still quite "innocent", happily running three SNB (take your pick) doffs.
I do blaim them for the issue we have such as lack of KDF development, no PvP development and other bugsthat would I can only imagine would not be ingame if the team focused on balance as much as quick profit.

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# 26
11-26-2012, 06:14 AM
  1. Nope.

  2. Nope. Unless you'd count fireworks, trashtalk!

  3. Nope, if a teammate calls for heals i'll throw over TT, Delta and HE, which is all I have lol.

  4. I only save when we have 1+ good healer on the team.

  5. Sometimes, depends what they're doing.

  6. Depends how they kill me, if it was clean and above board, full respect, if it was with highly questionable abilities/skills, trash away!

  7. I think we're all guilty of this, Hard to find players that don't use BFI doffs. SNB? Nope. But BFI - yes.
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# 27
11-26-2012, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
We all know what this is about, right?

So, ask yourself this simple scorecard and rate your honest commitment on a virtual scale of your commitment to the longevity of PvP.
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[*] I actively seek out to exploit powers when I know that they are currently deemed as broken, and go to great lengths to justify them as ok, both to myself and others.
Never. I avoided consoles for so long when they were broken.

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[*] I use console powers not necessarily because of their damage potential which I know is not great, but the unintended side effects of lag they do cause to another player.
Nope. See above. A victory gained through glitching is not a victory at all.

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[*] "I" must survive.
Not always. I'd rather throw all of my heals on a teammate than to save myself and prolong the inevitable. Especially if said teammate can be more useful to the team at that point.


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[*] I would rather save that HE for myself that extend it to a team mate.
I mainly play a healer. Those aux heals are generally hands off unless I'm the only one being focused.

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[*] I spawn camp before moving away, not allowing the other side to advance.
Nah, but I've been in games where the opposition is so meek and reserved, that our team keeps inching closer and closer to the spawn, that we have no choice. They won't move away from the spawn either. Probably dilithium farmers.

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[*] When someone brutally kills me, I insult them via PM or zone chat, instead of PM them afterwards to congratulate them.
I try to limit my use of chat to team chat or perhaps a 'gg' after the game, if I felt like it was.

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[*]I find it easier to blame the devs for the system, but am still quite "innocent", happily running three SNB (take your pick) doffs.[/list]
We all know dicks like these. I could outfit several ships with SNB doffs if I wanted to. Only lamesauce PvEers like some who post here use those doffs, or small-sacked pansies who can't handle timing buffs or teamwork to get kills.


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# 28
11-26-2012, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
2- again, the console tactyon detection grid. i alwasy get a chuckle when i lag my own team mates with it


That one used to lag me, but now it seems to be OK.


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# 29
11-26-2012, 04:07 PM
I think pretty much anyone who's flown with me can attest that I run a fairly clean setup... I don't even typically use phasers unless I have to because I know just how annoying 24/7 phaser procs can be...

In all honesty though, the reason I run plain bog standard stuff is mostly a selfish one: using gimmick or "broken" builds doesn't help me improve at the game. That's all I want to do, and every game I fly, with a pug or a friend or in a team, I'm constantly thinking about ways to improve, to get better uptime, better numbers, etc.

If I relied on a gimmick build, there's no real guarantee that things won't change (as they very often do in STO without warning) and I'd have to either find something else or resign myself to the fact that my ship was nothing without the gimmick.

I also just don't really want to use anything I wouldn't want used on me. I never went to Sunday school but I've read the sides of matchbox packets so I do know a lil thing or two about my moral parables.

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