singles, DEM3, and 2 AtB with tech doffs and they will indeed be DPS cruisers. excelsior mostly, the regent cant pull it off as well.

An escort's main purpose is to deal damage, an engineer increases the amount of time it can do that under focused fire.

A fed cruisers main purpose is to heal, which a tac will not improve one bit.

Also at the end of the day Cruisers need engineers in them to not make them a liability. I know I rub my hands when I see tac!cruiser on the otherteam, since they tend to pop easier then tac!escorts(well bugs anyway), especially when you stick a tractor beam on them.

I've used that for a while. While the damage is pretty awesome, the problem I've found is that it kills a lot of my aux healing. Also I tend to get easily hounded by escorts. While my escort could take care of one then move onto the other, my cruiser takes far longer to deal with one, with not much difference in tanking ability to my escort.

That's pretty much what I thought. Seriously, a 4th engineering console on a BoP? About the only real good that will do is enable an extra slot for universal/P2W consoles, which I suppose is nice. Seriously, though, it's a B'Rel with an EBC. It needs a 4th sci or tac console, darnit, it's supposed to focus on torpedoes/mines and sci abilities.

At least we get discounted ships, for once (Varanus makes two), but that only mollifies me slightly. . .especially since these 'discounts' only really mean something if you got the original ship on sale (like, say, getting the B'rel retrofit for 1600 zen instead of 2k, or whatever).

As usual, I don't like the looks of this. Then again, I've never liked the pricing scheme behind the fleet ships, especially with those single-character unlocks.

Yup, the fleet ships are a huge scam/rip off.

I wanna see what Lymuv Thissler has to say about the new ships.

WHAT? How many BoP drivers provide a tenth the free info on HOW to drive a BoP that Thissler does, in a form 1/100th as interesting as the Thissler videos, including pointing out glaring flaws.

I wanna see what Thissler thinks of a BoP with 4 Eng. consoles, Enhanced Battle Cloak, etc.

way I figure things, if Thissler Can't make it work, nobody can.

It'd be kind of funny, if it were a Sarr Theln instead of a Chel Grett. Giving the Feds the Bleth Choas and all that entails...

i can only hope they abstain from introducing ANOTHER cross faction uber carrier

BCF and ADR would be bad. It might even kill the FvF queues.

I'm not sure how they could build out the Chel Grett to have that Bug feel - without it being a nightmare for the Feds. CGs running alongside ASD carrier groups. Any hope of not being drained would be gone.

Can definitely see - from a PvE side - where the introduction of certain ships is ubermegaawesome (/cough) for folks - but man oh man... the potential in PvP for certain things - oh well...meh.

By the way, thanks for posting this over here. I've been kind of negligent in my lurking around other areas of the forums (the Omega/Rom grind is driving me away from the game - I'm beginning to wonder whether I should put it on my resume and if doing the grind comes with medical/dental benefits)...

4 tac consoles on Excelsior ? damn....poor Galaxy....if you compare those two ships, it is just hillarious. What about a fleet connie ? with 5 tac consoles and 45k hull and 1,2 shield mod ? after all, the older the better! Like brandy!

its sad because with the huge guns the galaxy should have, in game its primary beams should basically be the vet ship's phaser lotus, only with a slower fire rate.