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# 171
11-26-2012, 10:43 PM
I have a better idea, to make the Defiant more in line with canon. Remove its cloak altogether. The original defiant was destroyed together with the borrowed cloaking device.
The 2nd defiant is without a cloak.

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# 172
11-26-2012, 10:45 PM
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Okay I just read every single post in this freaking thread. Time for me to put in my two cents... I have a defiant on Fed and Brel Refit on KDF. Let me say this. There's only one thing i wish. make where you wouldn't need the cloaking console make be apart of the ship.. BUT!!! All you ****ing feds crying out for a battle cloak on a Defiant must be out of your ****ing mines. you have no clue on what is the BoP gives up for battle cloak. Hull, Shield, and weapons slots. Are the main things. A defiant as is with battle cloak is to damn much. I would literally drop this game like a freaking rock. To all the WINING FEDS who are crying for battle cloak. get off your lazy ass and make yourself a KDF


Oh and to the devs.. Because of the fact that ya'll have given so much to Feds and will probably give them this. before you do. why don't you idiots make a KDF and do the same and see what the hell happens.. take a month or two or three and play nothing but KDF... forgive me i'm kinda ****ing pissed at even the freaking idea of a defiant with battle cloak
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# 173
11-26-2012, 11:51 PM
Can someone please lock this thread and any following threads about giving the Defiant a battlecloak?

These threads all say the same thing, go nowhere, and just get peeps butt-hurt. This also won't ever happen. So to this thread... and the OP... and all following "Please give the best escort in the game battle-cloak" threads... GTFO!!!!
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# 174
11-27-2012, 12:29 AM
I still personally think they should revamp the cloak set up all together. Any and all treaties are off that would keep the cloak from happening, but even then it's not like we shouldn't or in some cases don't already have a better cloak to go with. But as a whole while i think all cloak should act as a battle cloak (activate any time but at your own risk) i think the feds should be limited to one per ship type to keep it fair since they get the most content. I can only imagine how bad this argument is going to get if they ever add the Romulan faction in and give them a high end cloak of their own.
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# 175
11-27-2012, 05:45 AM
Battlecloak for the Defiant?, Pfffft, the real injustice is that we Fed players can not have a pet Targ!.
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# 176
11-27-2012, 06:07 AM
It's possible for 750 zen to buy a 'battle cloak' from the Z-store

Look up the fed ships with the 'special' consoles....think about it...
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# 177
11-27-2012, 06:46 AM
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I still personally think they should revamp the cloak set up all together. Any and all treaties are off that would keep the cloak from happening, but even then it's not like we shouldn't or in some cases don't already have a better cloak to go with. But as a whole while i think all cloak should act as a battle cloak (activate any time but at your own risk) i think the feds should be limited to one per ship type to keep it fair since they get the most content. I can only imagine how bad this argument is going to get if they ever add the Romulan faction in and give them a high end cloak of their own.
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Stardate 2395
The Kelso was supposed to be on a routine mission to study the long-term effects of the Hobus supernova on star systems in the Devron Sector when it was destroyed. Initial reports indicated that the Kelso could have come under attack. However, when the remains of the vessel were recovered by the U.S.S. April it was found that a coolant leak caused by an experimental cloaking device onboard the Kelso caused plasma to vent from the ship. The plasma reacted with ionizing radiation present in the area, causing the explosion which destroyed the Kelso.

After careful consideration, Captain Barax Wenn of the April reveals the cause of the Kelso's destruction to the Romulan ships assisting in the search for the vessel. Praetor Taris lodges an immediate complaint with the Federation Council, and, as a "gesture of good faith," informs the Klingon Empire of the details of the Kelso's destruction as well.
Starfleet Security admits that the U.S.S. Kelso was testing a Federation cloaking device.

The Romulans eject all Federation diplomats and ships from their space in protest, and Chancellor J'mpok recalls the Klingon ambassador to the Federation back to Qo'noS for "strategic discussions."

Tensions between the three powers are at their highest point since the destruction of the Romulan homeworld in 2387. After a full inquiry, six members of Starfleet Security are court-martialed.

It takes three months for Federation President Aennik Okeg to convince the Romulans and the Klingons to send representatives to a summit to discuss the situation. When the meeting finally begins, Okeg makes the Federation's position clear. He apologizes for the experiments into cloaking technology, and says that he has signed an executive order banning all research into or creation of Federation cloaking technology.

"The narrow legal view may be that the Treaty of Algeron ended when Romulus was destroyed," Okeg says. "The Romulan Star Empire we knew is gone, and you are a new people. What has not changed is the Federation's commitment to peace."
Even though your own Commander -in-Chief says No and signed an Executive order for all the UFP to ban cloaking research or creation within the Federation?
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# 178
11-27-2012, 06:58 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how this thread is still open and how people can say they want this and be serious about it.

A) It's not canon, only the ORIGINAL Defiant had a cloak. The Valiant did not have a cloak, the Sao Paulo did not have a cloak. No other Defiant class escort had a cloak.

B) In STO it is NOT part of the continuity of the game's own story as the Federation President outlawed all cloaking research and implementation within the Federation. I still can't figure out why the C-Store Defiant and Dreadnought have one other.

C) It's absolutely game breaking. The Klingons have few tactical advantages left. The Cloak being one of them. It should never fall into the hands of the Federation for the above reasons plus balance issues with it.

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# 179
11-27-2012, 07:01 AM
Guys, seriously, no cloak for the Federation, it was a no-no before and it is a no-no now, i play Star Trek online because it is STAR TREK, Star trek is a special fiction for many reasons, if the president of the Federation has stated that we are NOT going to pursue a cloaking technology, then do not expect it neither ask for it, you should be grateful that the devs had a couple of nostalgia moments and decided to make the original Defiant and the alternate universe Galaxy retrofit.
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# 180
11-27-2012, 07:06 AM
Politics change, war with the Klingons goes on and off at the drop of a hat, and the Romulan empire is wrecked. New Fed cloaking development could easily, EASILY be worked into recognized canon. That argument alone is not enough to oppose it.

That just leaves the overly-lamented issue of "balance" with the KDF players, but I don't care about Klingons.
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