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# 191
11-28-2012, 08:41 AM
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It's absolutely game breaking. The Klingons have few tactical advantages left. The Cloak being one of them. It should never fall into the hands of the Federation for the above reasons plus balance issues with it.
Then remove all bonuses that cloak/battle cloak/enhanced battle cloak give you.

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# 192
11-28-2012, 08:53 AM
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Then remove all bonuses that cloak/battle cloak/enhanced battle cloak give you.
Wait, what?? That makes no sense, bcs every single console, or special ship in the game gives u some bonuses. When u would remove bonus from de-cloaking+alpha strike than BoP pilots would lose huge advantage over...everything. That just doesn`t make any sense.
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# 193
11-28-2012, 09:08 AM
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Wait, what?? That makes no sense, bcs every single console, or special ship in the game gives u some bonuses. When u would remove bonus from de-cloaking+alpha strike than BoP pilots would lose huge advantage over...everything. That just doesn`t make any sense.
And last I saw this was the Federation Gameplay forum, not the Klingon Gameplay forum... So yea, remove all bonuses of higher firepower from the cloaks to make it even if that's how they wanna be.

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# 194
11-28-2012, 09:26 AM
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Then remove all bonuses that cloak/battle cloak/enhanced battle cloak give you.
As long as the feds lose it too on the GalX and Defiants. I would gladly give up +15% damage for a +15% boost in shields for the BoPs where handicaped for having a Battle cloak and for most other KDF having standard cloaks.
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# 195
11-28-2012, 10:33 AM
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As long as the feds lose it too on the GalX and Defiants. I would gladly give up +15% damage for a +15% boost in shields for the BoPs where handicaped for having a Battle cloak and for most other KDF having standard cloaks.
No bonus, only cloaking. If that's how you wanna play it, no bonus.

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# 196
11-28-2012, 11:20 AM
okay i have an idea. give the winey feds their battle cloak on the gal x and defiant. just give battle cloak to every single KDF ship that has cloaking cruisers and raptors included. without any lost of power or anything for both fed and KDF if the feds want to wine and cry about the defiant not having battle cloak, which is an escort not a freaking raider.
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# 197
11-28-2012, 11:23 AM
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No bonus, only cloaking. If that's how you wanna play it, no bonus.
No. You want the Damage Bonus to be removed then the KDF vessels gets the handicap back for having the Cloak.
In fact lets go one better, since we are discussing fairness and removing handicap or unfair advantages, lest remove any handicap the KDF has suffered for having Universal slots.

For every style of equal Universal Slot the Feds have used on a vessel lets remove a coresponding level of the Hull and Shield handicap that has been applied to the KDF vessels whom have Universal slots.

Federation Ensign Universal slots...... check
(Fleet Aquarius, Fleet Patrol escort, Aquarius Destroyer, Chimera Destroyer, Odyssey operation, Odyssey tactical, Odyssey Science, Advanced Research Vessel, Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer, Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer, Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer)

Federation LT Universal slots.......check
(Fleet Aquarius, Mobius Destroyer, Aqaurius Destroyer, Wells Temporal Science Vessel, Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit, Fleet Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit)

Federation LTC Universal slots.......check
(Mobius Destroyer, Chimera Destroyer, Odyssey operation, Odyssey tactical, Odyssey Science, Wells Temporal Science Vessel, Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer, Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer, Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer)

KDF Ensign Universal slots.......check
(all 12 Raiders, Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser, Bortasqu' War Cruiser, Bortasqu' Command Cruiser, Fleet Negh'Var Heavy Battle Cruiser, Peghu' destroyer)

KDF LT Universal Slots
(all 12 Raiders, Fleet Tor'Kaht Battle Cruiser Retrofit, Krenn Destroyer, Korath Science vessel)

KDF LTC Universal slots
(all 12 Raiders, Bortas Battle Cruiser, Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser, Bortasqu' War Cruiser, Bortasqu' Command Cruiser, Peghu destroyer, Kren destroyer, Korath Science vessel)

KDF Commander UNiversal slots
(all 12 Raiders)

SO the only handicap any KDF vessel should retain is whatever the Devs determined was fair for a Commander Universal slot.

I expect the missing Hull and or Shields to be returned post haste since we are eradicating unfair advantages and handicaps suffered by the playerbase for advantages that are no longer exclusive to just one faction.
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# 198
11-28-2012, 11:41 AM
Oh look, the KDF keep posting in the Federation Gameplay Forum...

Go back to the Klingon Gameplay Forum and whine and cry about things, leave the Federation Gameplay Forum to the Federation players.

Remove all bonuses from cloak if that's how you wanna play this out.

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# 199
11-28-2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by krayuskorianis View Post
Oh look, the KDF keep posting in the Federation Gameplay Forum...

Go back to the Klingon Gameplay Forum and whine and cry about things, leave the Federation Gameplay Forum to the Federation players.

Remove all bonuses from cloak if that's how you wanna play this out.
hey dumb dumb. a lot of us do have fed toons. so there's not really a fed or KDF gameplay forum
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# 200
11-28-2012, 11:53 AM
Even as a Fed i would be against the Battle cloak. you have no idea what the BoPs gives up for battle cloak
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