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# 11
12-03-2012, 09:15 PM
Not that what I say means much to you, but I think it takes a big man to admit wrong. To get out of your own way and see and admit that maybe you made the wrong choice is better than most of our characters in this forum would ever rise to. Whether you participate or not, you imo are a good man for posting an apology devoras. Humbleness in pvp is something that could go a long way for the betterment of pvp. You should continue what you started.
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# 12
12-03-2012, 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
everyone makes mistakes.

stick with the bootcamp.

Quoted for truth.
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# 13
12-03-2012, 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by devorasx View Post
There is a hebrew saying: Pride before a fall.

And that saying I will heed to now. I wish to apologize first to my own fleet for my rash and far outspoken manner on fleets do and do nots. I admit it was foolish, stupit, borderline pathetic, and I wish top rectify that before my last shred of credibility and dignity flies out the window. Secondly i wish to apologise to the pvp community for my rubbish behaviour and hope I can still contibute where I can.

Finally I still stand on my descion to withdraw from the bootcamp. Given the unfortunate circumstance ive caused, such conduct Ive shown will not reflect well on the bootcamps spirit and intent. So to spare them, I will not participate.

This is final if Sargon or others dont have a bloody good reason why to even bother having me present.

Thanks for reading.

Thanks for this humble response, Devoras.

In point of fact, I think this apology alone warrants your participation in Boot Camp. Because we are all so passionate about PvP we can sometimes get carried away in how we respond to one another, which occasionally leads to words that we later regret. In our worst moments, we realize our mistakes but fight on defending our statements because we don't want to appear weak. In our best moments, we do what you did, Devoras, and admit our mistakes. Injecting a bit of humility into these forums--and into PvP more generally--is PRECISELY what we need at this moment in the game. You have done PvP a great service, my friend.

You are an insightful, eager, and intelligent person, Devoras. I would hate to lose you, esp. over something like this. So, for now, and given all of the positive responses you have received here, I am going to consider you still an active member of the Boot Camp, unless you really insist on being removed.

And since we are on the topic of Hebrew literature--my PhD work is in the study of Semitic literature-- I will quote another one: "The way of fools seems right to them, but the wise listen to advice" (Prov. 12:15). This is a good quote, whether or not one ascribes any sort of authority to the Hebrew Scriptures. And it happens to describe you--not the fool, but the wise man, who listens to advice.

Thanks again, Devoras. See you at Boot Camp

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# 14
12-03-2012, 10:51 PM
I'm here for the group hugs, the hand holding & the rainbows.

No I'm not, I'm here for PVP. Bootcamp.

Enough soapbox statements! Get on with the internal PVP improvements! If people like you don't stick you're head out then nothing will change. And I'm sure as **** not waiting for Cryptic to solve the problems they created.

On with the show.
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# 15
12-03-2012, 11:03 PM
boot camp is a nice idea. hope all goes well but pvp will not get fixed. hf with pipe dreams. if gozer was not allowed to fix it you think boot camp will? lol
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# 16
12-04-2012, 03:30 AM
Allright allright. Ill stay on the bootcamp. Disregard the other post made on the matter.
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# 17
12-04-2012, 03:56 AM
Originally Posted by devorasx View Post
Allright allright. Ill stay on the bootcamp. Disregard the other post made on the matter.
Yessssssss. =)

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# 18
12-04-2012, 09:24 AM
Dude i hope u stay in boot camp i rly was looking forward to learning more from u. You have always been help full to me, and sometimes u get i bit crazy in forums but your threads are always more help then hinder rock the good fight bud and stand up for what u belive in...u are passionate about the game and the pvp community and thats just what makes u a great player and member of this community.

ur top shelf devoras and by the way ty for mentioning the dilithum rate last night i sold 148000 [email]dilithum vesta comming my way soon.

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# 19
12-04-2012, 09:30 AM
I for one am looking forward to hearing from you, and seeing your contributions to Boot Camp.

The forums are a cruel battleground. People tend not to forgive easily or forget. Take me for example. Probably still frowned upon by certain folks since beta because of my "premade" bashing.

So I will leave you with this, one of my favorite quotes by Joss Whedon:

"Passion. It lies in all of us. Sleeping... waiting... and though unwanted, unbidden, it will stir... open its jaws and howl. It speaks to us... guides us. Passion rules us all. And we obey. What other choice do we have? Passion is the source of our finest moments. The joy of love... the clarity of hatred... the ecstasy of grief. It hurts sometimes more than we can bear. If we could live without passion, maybe we'd know some kind of peace. But we would be hollow. Empty rooms, shuttered and dank. Without passion, we'd be truly dead."

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