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# 11
12-05-2012, 04:53 AM
[quote=tripwire690;6936511]
So with all that said I would appreciate it if we stop attacking each other. I don't appreciate my fleet being spoken so ill of when I don't speak ill of other fleets. This last comment is specifically directed at BROKEN from Risa Squadron who has no respect for anyone and who seems to find every oppurtunity to put down my players and my fleet. I assure you Broken, NONE of my characters needs a console to rip your best ship in half./[quote]

wow.......lol? if u think u can kill my ship pm me in game. 6your fleet and sob is the MOST nubbish fleet in game. and trip if you think you can take me then try it. your fleet is so bad you got tacts in escourts with sub nuke doffs. fully speced out gp consoles. really dude check yourself. i fly clean unlike ur lame fleet. since you want to call me out again bring it or or gtfu

side edit fleets i respect, turk rp heros, pandas, tsi even tho i hate when they use broken crap since they are better then that. lag fleet and a few others. reason? they run clean in ques.

nova core "hey lets use ams gp and sub nuke doffs like hard core nub pros."

nuff said dude. so anytime you want a 1v1 bring it. if u want me on a defiant then ask because im in a bug atm. and i do hope ur not going to bring p2w consoles either.

Last edited by broken1981; 12-05-2012 at 05:00 AM.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
Bah, never mind - I don't care anymore.

edit: It comes down to do we want PvP to grow? If we chase everybody away, how can it grow?
You have a very valid point there. Something this forum hardly ever represents is the difference of how Vet treat each other, and how this comes across for newcomers.

Pre-made private matches, are hardly ever a problem, we agree on things, or don't and take it from there. However, we take these agreements into the queues, and start insulting players for using cheese, spam, P2W and whatnot, god forbid their poorly balanced toys can't safe em from loosing, we rub it in some more.

The problem is, that new players don't know or understand why certain things are frowned upon. Even worse, we have just taken the most rewarding experience of that new player (getting the lockbox ship, DoFF, Console...), and turned it into a ****storm. I feel this myself, i don't even wnat to tune my builds anymore simply because the minute some poor escort pilot can't survive a sci ships attack, the nerf cries are going to start.

"Danoobe Spam, paired with Tric mines and AMS spam, is fine, but Siphons are not." This doesn't make sense to a new player.

I think we are loosing a large number of new players interested in PvP, because of the hostility they will encounter for what simply appears the most efficient combo to them.

I mean we can hardly agree among ourselves what is permissible, and whose fleet said what when and how.

Just to be clear, there are borken combos, and the blame is and will always be with Cryptic. But since P2W the name calling between Vets, has gotten out of hand. If i wouldn't know you guys, and just be in the match reading zone chat, i doubt that i would have ever gotten into pvp. I can only imagine that new players have similar reactions.

Maybe on a side note, SVR will never police the PUG builds of its members.
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Last edited by havam; 12-05-2012 at 05:09 AM.
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# 13
12-05-2012, 06:44 AM
Its quite possible that you wern't the Admiral i tryed to speak to, if so i'm sorry for being mistaken.
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# 14
12-05-2012, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by broken1981 View Post

wow.......lol? if u think u can kill my ship pm me in game. 6your fleet and sob is the MOST nubbish fleet in game. and trip if you think you can take me then try it. your fleet is so bad you got tacts in escourts with sub nuke doffs. fully speced out gp consoles. really dude check yourself. i fly clean unlike ur lame fleet. since you want to call me out again bring it or or gtfu

I have killed you before. You know that I am fully capable of putting you in a bad position. I don't need a console to defeat you and I cant even afford a subnuke doff. Also S.O.B. has/had some the best players in this game. good people. You don't have to agree with how either of us run our teams. If you go boom then we've done something right. Can I be killed by you? Sure. You are a good player. Your problem is not your skill. Your problem is your attitude.

side edit fleets i respect, turk rp heros, pandas, tsi even tho i hate when they use broken crap since they are better then that. lag fleet and a few others. reason? they run clean in ques.

Who you respect is irrelevant to the topic of me calling you out in my post. You have directed disrespectful posts at me personally while not playing this game, my fleet, and other players. If you think that is okay then you are dead wrong. So I'm calling you out since you seem to go out of your way to bring the name 7th Core or Nova Core into everything you don't like about this game. You don't expect me to seriously ignore your insults do you? There are no "clean" fleets in this game. And who are you to tell me or any other player what is appropriate to run on any ship when you didn't pay for it? The state of this game is not the players fault. It is Cryptic's fault. You would do good to remember who is actually in the wrong here. The problem is not your opinion but once again your attitude.

nova core "hey lets use ams gp and sub nuke doffs like hard core nub pros."

What is not fun to you may be fun for someone else. Did you ever consider other people don't take pvp as seriously as it seems you do? What people put on their ship for fun in this game is not for you or anyone else to decide. Unless it is a private match where rules are agreed on beforehand or a tournament you have no right to dictate what is appropriate or innapropriate to be used in the public queues.

nuff said dude. so anytime you want a 1v1 bring it. if u want me on a defiant then ask because im in a bug atm. and i do hope ur not going to bring p2w consoles either.
Absoultely. I consider the bug ship to be overpowered in comparison to the defiant. But you know it might be fun to fight your bug in my defiant. Let's see what happens.

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.

Last edited by tripwire690; 12-05-2012 at 07:04 AM.
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# 15 @tripwire690
12-05-2012, 06:53 AM
Here here!!! well stated. I agree. Don't mind some of the haters. Some are just going to hate, cause that's all they do.
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# 16 No worries...
12-05-2012, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by aquitaine985 View Post
Its quite possible that you wern't the Admiral i tryed to speak to, if so i'm sorry for being mistaken.
As I said already. I cannot control what happened before me. But I can once again take up an active role in this community right now. I realize the pvp community seems to have labeled my fleet as spammers, cheaters, p2w, etc. However I will do my best as a current admiral of Nova Core to ensure our members are being respectful and showing good sportsmanship during matches. If not then you know who you can talk to now. Its important for us fleet leaders to communicate with one another. Its a small community thats ever growing smaller with each new ship release.

I will also say that Nova Core will not police the use of consoles, or ships in the public queue. It is not our place as fleet leaders to restrict our players from using ships or consoles they have purchased in the public queue. What we will do is make sure that if consoles or duty officers or ships are decided upon as being forbidden in any private match or tournament we will abide by those rules and avoid violating them period. We do not currently have a premade but I will be working on building one and we will challenge other premades in private queues. I will personally be handling this last point as a direct approach to leading by example with the intention of showing the pvp community that there are players in Nova Core that are just as good as some other players in very well known fleets without the skills, consoles, or whatever is frowned upon as being cheap, cheese or crap.

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.
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# 17
12-05-2012, 07:13 AM
well i can say that, after much debating that i am f2p...do i like it? not rly but i use what resources are necessary for performance...back when se2 and before was up, pvp was the best it could be...some would disagree, but imho it was...no pet spam, no consoles...all about teamwork and coordination...now the game has new additions to it, and those that are use to the old ways wont last long, me included...which is why i did finally decided to use all the consoles that i have...

point being...if u paid for it, use it...u have two ways of getting it, so EVERYBODY can get it...either u spend time or money...dont slam the players for paying for an advantage...

nova core isnt hackers nor are we cheaters in any reguard...we play with what tools are available to us and are even willing and able to run premades w/o the p2w...
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# 18
12-05-2012, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by corruptedphazon View Post
if u paid for it, use it
Regardless of the cost, eh?

There's that saying about cutting off your nose to spite your face...
...which comes to mind.

What's more important to you?

Winning the current match or having another match to play after the current one?
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# 19
12-05-2012, 09:31 AM
Anyone who whines about P2W in STO sucks, period. Anyone who wants to have anything in this game can have it, whether from lobi or zen or whatever, the bottom line is P2W is the excuse of the player who is crying, and says nothing about folks who play the game and find ways of getting ahead.

The whiners about p2w are the ones who are terrible, not the folks who advance themselves using the means available to them. Don't have money for Zen? Lots of players don't, that doesn't mean you still can't get everything you want anyway, unless you are either a terribly limited player or play in a terribly limited fleet.
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# 20
12-05-2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by echodarksided View Post
Anyone who whines about P2W in STO sucks, period. Anyone who wants to have anything in this game can have it, whether from lobi or zen or whatever, the bottom line is P2W is the excuse of the player who is crying, and says nothing about folks who play the game and find ways of getting ahead.

The whiners about p2w are the ones who are terrible, not the folks who advance themselves using the means available to them. Don't have money for Zen? Lots of players don't, that doesn't mean you still can't get everything you want anyway, unless you are either a terribly limited player or play in a terribly limited fleet.
I lol'd. I really did. Not enough caffeine to tell if this was sarcasm or if you actually believe it, but I lol'd all the same.
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