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# 71
12-05-2012, 04:06 AM
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I see
tell me what do you think the Sexual revolution was??

Because to most of us it was not a good thing and nothing to do with Religion

Sex is supposed to be a private matter that happens indoors and without witnesses
you forgot: only for procreation!

I find your way of thinking...disturbing...and your moral views "medieval"

and btw: who is your, so often refured to "us"? i can't see anybody here actually agreeing with your views and opinions.
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# 72
12-05-2012, 04:08 AM
have to get "teens" into the ship so that they can have hormones

look at chekov he moves at the speed of light

A man is falling at TV towards the surface of vulcan
he has time to Run to transporter room and take several attempts

"I can do that"
What a teen
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# 73
12-05-2012, 04:16 AM
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Look up the regulations (indeed of ANY military and ANY school) instructors are not allowed to shack up with students
Nor are officers allowed to hook up with cadets
Im a HE (Vulcan names ending in an X are usually male)
Meh - JJ-Starfleet is an oddity anyway - considering that it takes four years to graduate from the academy (or it DID, in the Prime Universe anyway) Chekov, 17 at the time of Nero's rubbish, was basically 13 years old when he entered what is, basically, a military academy.

So Starfleet Academy admits children. Great.
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# 74
12-05-2012, 11:05 AM
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The problem is that in 2009 (and likely in the sequel), Humanity is not depicted as striving for a better future, nor as enlightened as the TV series pointed out.
In the Abramverse it is just another futuristic Human military space organization.
That is the problem.
It wasn't really explored in the movie, but it certainly wasn't shot down. Pike called Starfleet a "peacekeeping and humanitarian armada", as opposed to a normal military force.

Yes, there were imperfect people in the movie. Just as there were imperfect people in every one of the series, and every one of the movies. Not every single person in the Federation is going to be enlightened.

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you sure are talking about the 2009 jj s**t trek?
That was never considered a success.It was in meh category .Mean girls had better success than 2009 JJ Lens Flare Trek lol
Meh category is not a scuccess.20$ profit is not considered a success.
Commercial
Budget was $150 million. It made $235,494,555 in the box office. Commercial success? Yes.

Critical
"Star Trek reignites a classic franchise with action, humor, a strong story, and brilliant visuals, and will please traditional Trekkies and new fans alike." - Rotten Tomatoes, who gives is a 95% approval rating.

"Emotionally, Star Trek hits every one of its marks, functioning as a family reunion that extends across decades, entertainment mediums, even blurring the line between audience and show. Trading on affections sustained over 40 years of popular culture, Star Trek does what a franchise reboot rarely does. It reminds us why we loved these characters in the first place." - Ty Burr (Boston Globe), who gave it four stars

"Star Trek [...] isn?t just a pleasurable rethink of your geek uncle's favorite science-fiction series. It's also a testament to television's power as mythmaker, as a source for some of the fundamental stories we tell about ourselves, who we are and where we came from." - Manohla Dargis (New York Times)

Critical success? Yes.

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Meh - JJ-Starfleet is an oddity anyway - considering that it takes four years to graduate from the academy (or it DID, in the Prime Universe anyway) Chekov, 17 at the time of Nero's rubbish, was basically 13 years old when he entered what is, basically, a military academy.

So Starfleet Academy admits children. Great.
Pike said to Kirk, "You could be an officer in four years." ie, after Kirk graduates. He also called Chekov a "Russian whiz-kid", suggesting Chekov is a prodigy. And Chekov was presumably a cadet at the time as well.
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# 75
12-05-2012, 11:08 AM
if you compare $ for $
the films

taking cost to make and dividing profits by it

the jj verse film did VERY badly by trek standards (theres a thread on this somewhere with the figures in)

it made less than twice what it cost to make
(Compare that with a film thats actually any good)

oh and critics write what you pay them to (so the Editors make the decision)
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# 76
12-05-2012, 11:34 AM
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if you compare $ for $
the films

taking cost to make and dividing profits by it

the jj verse film did VERY badly by trek standards (theres a thread on this somewhere with the figures in)

it made less than twice what it cost to make
(Compare that with a film thats actually any good)
Um, I just gave the figures. $150 million to make, $235 million revenue. That's called a profit.

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oh and critics write what you pay them to (so the Editors make the decision)
So what you're saying is, anybody who has a different opinion that you is either corrupt or stupid.

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# 77
12-05-2012, 11:40 AM
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oh and critics write what you pay them to (so the Editors make the decision)
I'm an editor IRL, and if we did movie reviews I would never EVER tell a reviewer what to think about a movie.
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# 78
12-05-2012, 11:43 AM
Star Trek: The Motion Picture Made $139,000,000 Cost $35,000,000 hit
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Made $96,800,000 Cost $12,000,000 Hit
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock Made $87,000,000 Cost $18,000,000 Hit
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Made $133,000,000 Cost $24,000,000 Hit
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Made $70,200,000 Cost $30,000,000 Bombed
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Made $96,900,000 Cost $27,000,000 Hit
Star Trek: Generations Made $120,000,000 Cost $38,000,000 Hit
Star Trek: First Contact Made $150,000,000 Cost $46,000,000 Hit
Star Trek: Insurrection Made $117,800,000 Cost $70,000,000 Bombed
Star Trek: Nemesis made $67,312,826 Cost $60,000,000 Frakes bombed
Star Trek Made $385,680,446 Cost $140,000,000 Bombed

A film should make $3 on the dollar
MINIMUM
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# 79
12-05-2012, 11:54 AM
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Star Trek Made $385,680,446 Cost $140,000,000 Bombed

A film should make $3 on the dollar
MINIMUM
Profit is profit. The movie made the studio nearly $250 million. That's enough to fund at least two more high-budget movies.
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# 80
12-05-2012, 11:58 AM
Not exactly % of the Gross applys
So maybe one more movie and perhaps a low budget one (JJ gets I think its 8% might be wrong)
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