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# 11
12-19-2012, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
well, to be completely objective, it a fleet level ship that matches any of the traditional sci ship layouts, only the wells, orb, nova and vulcan/ballship have a variation it cant create. for certain builds, those ships may be able to have a slightly more ideal setup, its personal preference at that point.

and just because it can have its stations spread widely among the varies types, that doesn't mean that its just an unoptimized jack of all trades. quite the opposite, with ether tactical or eng LTC stations its got new disable, hold, or heal options other ships that specialize in those things don't have access too.

plus all its nice built in perks, the great station flexibility, useful console powers, 3 very nice console setups to chose from, 2 AtB fits it like a glove, the hanger, DHC use, and the aux powered DHCs
dont forget that the turn rate is nice and the inertia isnt too bad.

its the best all around science ship that can also focus on a single aspect of being a science.

the only thing itd need to make it even better is a 4th fore weapon slot. but then itd be an "escort" and not a science ship -rolls eyes-
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Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
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# 12
12-19-2012, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
dont forget that the turn rate is nice and the inertia isnt too bad.

its the best all around science ship that can also focus on a single aspect of being a science.

the only thing itd need to make it even better is a 4th fore weapon slot. but then itd be an "escort" and not a science ship -rolls eyes-
Hey, it could be a Heavy Science Destroyer! Maybe a Science Warship?

How about a Heavy Battle Science Flight-Deck War Cruiser?

MMRE vs. Fleet Armitage:

-7300 Hull
+0.36 Shield Modifier
-1 Fore Weapon
+550 Crew
+1 Device Slot
-1 Eng Console
+1 Sci Console
-10 Wep Power
+10 Aux Power
-3 Turn Rate
-0.05 Impulse Modifier
? Inertia ?
Cmdr Tac, LT Tac, En Tac, LCdr Eng, Lt Sci vs. Lt Tac, Lt Eng, Cmdr Sci, LCdr Uni, En Uni
+Sensor Analysis
+Subsystem Targeting
Different consoles...
Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder - R'ebel, Romulan, Haakona
Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin
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# 13
12-19-2012, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
Hey, it could be a Heavy Science Destroyer! Maybe a Science Warship?

How about a Heavy Battle Science Flight-Deck War Cruiser?

MMRE vs. Fleet Armitage:

-7300 Hull
+0.36 Shield Modifier
-1 Fore Weapon
+550 Crew
+1 Device Slot
-1 Eng Console
+1 Sci Console
-10 Wep Power
+10 Aux Power
-3 Turn Rate
-0.05 Impulse Modifier
? Inertia ?
Cmdr Tac, LT Tac, En Tac, LCdr Eng, Lt Sci vs. Lt Tac, Lt Eng, Cmdr Sci, LCdr Uni, En Uni
+Sensor Analysis
+Subsystem Targeting
Different consoles...
SHHHHH dont give them anymore bad ideas! i thought you knew better!

although.... maybe they'll add a "warship voyager" class of intrepid science heavy escort ships..... hmmmm a photonic cannon would be awesome too! i saw the doctor vaporize borg ships with it!
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Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
Do you even Science Bro?
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# 14
12-19-2012, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
SHHHHH dont give them anymore bad ideas! i thought you knew better!
Jem'Hadar Heavy Science Destroyer Escort

Hull: 36,000
Shield Modifier: 1.1
Weapons: 4 Fore/3 Aft
Crew: 500
BOFFs: Cmdr Sci, LCdr Uni, Lt Tac, Lt Eng, En Uni
Device Slots: 3
Consoles: 4 Tac, 3 Eng, 3 Sci
Turn Rate: 16
Impulse Modifier: 0.20
Inertia Rating: 50
Bonus Power: +10 Wep, +10 Aux
Sensor Analysis
Subsystem Targeting
Can use Dual Cannons.
Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder - R'ebel, Romulan, Haakona
Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin
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# 15
12-19-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
Jem'Hadar Heavy Science Destroyer Escort

Hull: 36,000
Shield Modifier: 1.1
Weapons: 4 Fore/3 Aft
Crew: 500
BOFFs: Cmdr Sci, LCdr Uni, Lt Tac, Lt Eng, En Uni
Device Slots: 3
Consoles: 4 Tac, 3 Eng, 3 Sci
Turn Rate: 16
Impulse Modifier: 0.20
Inertia Rating: 50
Bonus Power: +10 Wep, +10 Aux
Sensor Analysis
Subsystem Targeting
Can use Dual Cannons.
too many sci consoles. make it 4 tac and 4 engy and 2 sci lol. thats a jem ship for ya.

the breen variant can have 4 tac and 3 sci and 3 engy. since they seem more sciency
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Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
Do you even Science Bro?
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# 16
02-25-2013, 04:05 AM
4 fore weapon slots makes the sensor analisys disappear, only the sci oddy violates that rule, and if you have a cmdr sci, the ship needs at least 4 sci consoles,
wtf ? commander sci with 4 tac and 4 eng consoles ? lol

make it with less hull and 1.5 shield mod ship <.<

you dont need the high hull, average shield and high turn rate, that would be jhas crap like

the perfect ship for me would be :

4 fore weapons
1 aft weapon slots ( to compensate the gain of 1 fore weapon slot with sensor analisys ?)
can use aux cannons
24k hull
1.5 shield mod
300 crew
16 turn rate
0.22 speed mod
sensor analisys and subsys targeting
1 hangar

stations
cmndr sci
ens sci
ltcmndr tac
lt eng
lt uni

consoles:
5 sci
4 tac
1 eng

special console: secondary shield array generator
splits the shield in two, primary with 0.8 shield mod, and secondary with 0.4 shield mod, when the secondary shield is destroyed, the primary shield gains 1 sec of immunity, due to the energy dissipation of the secondary shield array destruction, 30 secs duration, 3min cooldown, this would prevent alpha strikes <.<

how about that ? >.<
i know its stupid xP

Last edited by borgresearcher; 02-25-2013 at 04:13 AM.
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# 17
02-25-2013, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by borgresearcher View Post
4 fore weapon slots makes the sensor analisys disappear, only the sci oddy violates that rule, and if you have a cmdr sci, the ship needs at least 4 sci consoles,
wtf ? commander sci with 4 tac and 4 eng consoles ? lol

make it with less hull and 1.5 shield mod ship <.<

you dont need the high hull, average shield and high turn rate, that would be jhas crap like

the perfect ship for me would be :

4 fore weapons
1 aft weapon slots ( to compensate the gain of 1 fore weapon slot with sensor analisys ?)
can use aux cannons
24k hull
1.5 shield mod
300 crew
16 turn rate
0.22 speed mod
sensor analisys and subsys targeting
1 hangar

stations
cmndr sci
ens sci
ltcmndr tac
lt eng
lt uni

consoles:
5 sci
4 tac
1 eng

special console: secondary shield array generator
splits the shield in two, primary with 0.8 shield mod, and secondary with 0.4 shield mod, when the secondary shield is destroyed, the primary shield gains 1 sec of immunity, due to the energy dissipation of the secondary shield array destruction, 30 secs duration, 3min cooldown, this would prevent alpha strikes <.<

how about that ? >.<
i know its stupid xP
Why should it lose 2 rear weapon slots? The Andy ship only lost one rear weapon slot...
Quote:
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Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
Do you even Science Bro?
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