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# 71
12-21-2012, 04:04 PM
I think that fixing the Dispersal critical problem and reducing Tricobalt mine damage to half and their cooldown to half would be good without the need to nerf other mines that don't need it.
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# 72
12-21-2012, 04:04 PM
Bort's totally getting a Christmas Card this year!

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Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
just please make sure when you mention the auto defense battery on the npc's that this wasnt the pvp communites evil ploy to inhibit their "fun".
Nope, let them know who blew the whistle, STFs are already too bloody easy, let them at least do them properly!
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# 73 Think! Tactic!
12-21-2012, 04:07 PM
Oh my dear!
excuse me please.
i picture many people here like biting on their lower lips while staring from 5 inches on their monitor while CRF spamming and not caring about defense!!!
(just kidding)^^

cry nerf and let slip the dogs of boredom

Defense is EASY. Mostly noobs and people who better do some first person shooter flame here! Excuse me. But this game is not only for CRF freaks. Its for tacticians. Some TBR or Grav well, APO or evasive maneuvers do the trick. Its not too difficult. Render the trics useless does not seem to be apropriate.
Rather nerf the CRF spammers to encourage them to think of something creative.

Whoever read this thread already can be fully capable of rendering any tricobalt build totally useless.
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# 74
12-21-2012, 04:10 PM
Tric spammers are not tacticians. They are PvE heroes who can't play worth a damn, so they use the currently insane damage and crit bonuses of Trics with DPB to get kills they otherwise wouldn't get.

Btw, any of the people complaining about Trics in this thread, especially the fleets, could use those setups and troll the hell out of the queues, basically shutting them down.

They don't do that because it's lame and because they don't want to ruin what little community still plays the game.


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# 75
12-21-2012, 05:12 PM
Why is Cryptic pandering to PVP players who last I knew represented less than 10-20% of the player base? I vote for option 3 which is to leave it alone.

Why stop here? Science ships need some attention, balance the skills so science ships can better compete with other classes in PVE, STF's, and PVP. I get tired of getting attitude from other players when I warp into an instance with a Sci ship, players think because I am not DPSing to the level of Escort that I can't pull my own weight.

I wouldn't even mind making these mines ineffective or useless if I could respec for free but you have to pay for that. Why can't we have a patch once every 4 months that will balance/buff/nerf skills and give a free respec token with it or least give players a chance to save up to buy tokens? I don't mind doing my fair share to buy stuff to support the game but being expected to pick up the tab because a FEW players in the game are complaining about mines is unfair.
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# 76
12-21-2012, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by startrekron View Post
Why is Cryptic pandering to PVP players who last I knew represented less than 10-20% of the player base? I vote for option 3 which is to leave it alone.

Why stop here? Science ships need some attention, balance the skills so science ships can better compete with other classes in PVE, STF's, and PVP. I get tired of getting attitude from other players when I warp into an instance with a Sci ship, players think because I am not DPSing to the level of Escort that I can't pull my own weight.

I wouldn't even mind making these mines ineffective or useless if I could respec for free but you have to pay for that. Why can't we have a patch once every 4 months that will balance/buff/nerf skills and give a free respec token with it or least give players a chance to save up to buy tokens? I don't mind doing my fair share to buy stuff to support the game but being expected to pick up the tab because a FEW players in the game are complaining about mines is unfair.
Could you explain why you're in the PvP boards if you don't care about it?

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# 77
12-21-2012, 05:41 PM
The Dev tracker is the devil! Point of fact, most of these folk wouldn't even notice a change if not for it or word of mouth.

Seriously though, I think it's important to get as many voices in on a conversation as possible. It could really be better for the game as a whole. Unfortunately, for that to work all of the voices chiming in would need to actually care enough to educate themselves about how what works and why.
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# 78
12-21-2012, 05:44 PM
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Could you explain why you're in the PvP boards if you don't care about it?
Because what goes on in this forum has large effects elsewhere in the game. See: Photonic Shockwave, Danube pets, the Omega shield heal, now Tric Mines, among others.
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# 79
12-21-2012, 05:45 PM
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I was under the impression that the core problem of (Tricobalt) mines was the phenomenon of "linked crits", i.e. if one mine of a dispersal pattern crits, they all crit.

Does this behaviour still exist?
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Could you explain why you're in the PvP boards if you don't care about it?
Oh I'm sorry I didn't know I couldn't express my opinion in a PUBLIC forum.
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# 80
12-21-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by snoge00f View Post
Tric spammers are not tacticians. They are PvE heroes who can't play worth a damn, so they use the currently insane damage and crit bonuses of Trics with DPB to get kills they otherwise wouldn't get.

Btw, any of the people complaining about Trics in this thread, especially the fleets, could use those setups and troll the hell out of the queues, basically shutting them down.

They don't do that because it's lame and because they don't want to ruin what little community still plays the game.
Trics are not the issue, it's the chained crits from DPB. To say that there is no tact involved is an overstatement when most PvP'rs now keep an eye out for them and know when to hit CSV, TBR, FAW, APO, Aceton Assimilators, AMS, EM, EWP, VTR.

Personally, I find the Jem Attack Ship a bigger issue because it makes lousy PvP'rs seem respectable, marginally decent PvP'rs competative and once exceptional PvP'rs look godly. It's training wheels that scale upward with player skill. It's not available to everyone and those who have it will defend it to the death because they'd never fly anything else.
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