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It may be that I'm not reading the information correctly, or that I'm not taking something into account here, but having been looking over the stats for the Chel Grett earlier, I've come to the conclusion that it pretty much powers over any other escort in the game, including those of the fleet variety.

The Breen Warship Stats:
Bridge Officers: Lt. Tactical, Cmd Tactical, Lt. Engineering, Lt. Cmd Science and Uni Ensign
Hull ~ 36000
Shield Modifier ~ 1.0
Crew ~ 360
Turn Rate ~ 13
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x4
Tactical Console Slots ~ x4
Engineering Console Slots ~ x3
Science Console Slots ~ x3
Device Slots ~ x3
Price ~ essentially free

The Fleet Patrol Escort:
Bridge Officers: Cmd Tactical, Lt. Cmd Tactical, Lt. Engineering, Lt. Science and Uni Ensign
Hull ~ 34100
Shield Modifier ~ 0.99
Crew ~ 200
Turn Rate ~ 16
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x3
Tactical Console Slots ~ x4
Engineering Console Slots ~ x4
Science Console Slots ~ x2
Device Slots ~ x2
Price ~ x4 Ship Modules and 20,000 Fleet Credits

Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit (Defiant):
Bridge Officers: Cmd Tactical, Lt. Cmd Tactical, Ensign Tactical, Lt. Engineering, and Lt. Science
Hull ~ 33000
Shield Modifier ~ 0.9
Crew ~ 50
Turn Rate ~ 17
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x3
Tactical Console Slots ~ x5
Engineering Console Slots ~ x3
Science Console Slots ~ x2
Device Slots ~ x2
Price ~ x4 Ship Modules and 20,000 Fleet Credits

Fleet Advanced Escort (Prometheus):
Bridge Officers: Cmd Tactical, Lt. Tactical, Ensign Tactical, Lt. Engineering, and Lt. Cmd Science
Hull ~ 34100
Shield Modifier ~ 0.99
Crew ~ 150
Turn Rate ~ 16
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x3
Tactical Console Slots ~ x5
Engineering Console Slots ~ x2
Science Console Slots ~ x3
Device Slots ~ x2
Price ~ x4 Ship Modules and 20,000 Fleet Credits

Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier (Akira):
Bridge Officers: Cmd Tactical, Lt. Tactical, Ensign Tactical, Lt. Cmd Engineering, and Lt. Science
Hull ~ 35200
Shield Modifier ~ 0.99
Crew ~ 200
Turn Rate ~ 15
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x3
Tactical Console Slots ~ x4
Engineering Console Slots ~ x3
Science Console Slots ~ x3
Device Slots ~ x2
Price ~ x4 Ship Modules and 20,000 Fleet Credits

With the Breen vessel having the stats it does, I don't see any practical Tactical-favoring player the need to purchase any Fleet Escort. Compared (for what they can do) I'd say the Breen ship sits on top of them all quite comfortably. Short of the turn rate, and in some instances the hull, it's laughing at all the other escorts whilst being able to admirably do their job in the process.

I always assumed the Breen Chel Grett, along with the D'Kora and Galor (ect) were comparable to Your Lower Admiral ships, and thus not up to scratch with Fleet Ships. It seems I have been mistaken. I unlocked this ship earlier (finished off the purchase with Lobi) and was surprised to find the stats as they are.

Surely this isn't intended? If it was, then Cryptic are going to find themselves short of Fleet Escort sales over the coming months cause people, quite simply aren't going to need them.

Last edited by flash525; 12-26-2012 at 09:14 AM. Reason: Bridge Officers
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# 2
12-26-2012, 08:54 AM
Lockbox style ships are and always have been, superior to every other ship.
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12-26-2012, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by flash525 View Post
It may be that I'm not reading the information correctly, or that I'm not taking something into account here, but having been looking over the stats for the Chel Grett earlier, I've come to the conclusion that it pretty much powers over any other escort in the game, including those of the fleet variety.
How does the boff layout compare?
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12-26-2012, 09:01 AM
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Lockbox style ships are and always have been, superior to every other ship.
I knew they were superior to the normal Tier 5 vessels, but I had always thought that the Fleet Ships were superior to the Lock Box ships.

As we now have it, it seems that Starfleets most powerful vessels are all of alien (or future) design. How did this ever get passed off by CBS?

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How does the boff layout compare?
Added. Sorry.
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# 5
12-26-2012, 09:03 AM
Can the breen ship fit cannons?
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# 6
12-26-2012, 09:05 AM
Turn rate isn't nearly as good either.
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# 7
12-26-2012, 09:05 AM
http://www.stowiki.org/Breen_Chel_Grett_Warship

LT tac, Commander Tac, LT Engi, LT Com Sci, ensign Universal Slot

4 tac console, 3 engi, 3 sci
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# 8
12-26-2012, 09:10 AM
My computer picked a really bad time to die. I guess I'll wallpaper my ready room with the 700 portraits I managed to collect.

Porthos is not amused.
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12-26-2012, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by flash525 View Post
I knew they were superior to the normal Tier 5 vessels, but I had always thought that the Fleet Ships were superior to the Lock Box ships.

As we now have it, it seems that Starfleets most powerful vessels are all of alien (or future) design. How did this ever get passed off by CBS?
You people complain about the damnedest things.
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12-26-2012, 09:20 AM
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Can the breen ship fit cannons?
Yes it can.

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Originally Posted by onenonlydrock View Post
Turn rate isn't nearly as good either.
Considering the turn rate it does have, and the weapon slots that go with it in addition to all the other specifications, the turn rate is as good as it needs to be.

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Originally Posted by idontcarenoforum View Post
LT tac, Commander Tac, LT Engi, LT Com Sci, ensign Universal Slot
My mistake. Edited. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by collegepark2151 View Post
My computer picked a really bad time to die. I guess I'll wallpaper my ready room with the 700 portraits I managed to collect.
I'd hold on to them if I were you. Considering many people are likely going to have portraits left over (especially if they purchased any with Lobi) Cryptic have got to do something with the remaining ones, and another shot at the Breen Warship is bound to come up sooner or later. They've given 2nd (and I believe 3rd) chances for the Jem Hadar Attack Ship.

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You people complain about the damnedest things.
Sure do. It's a valid point though. If this Federation ever wanted to win another war, they'd have to rely on alien starships and help from the future. Considering how reluctant CBS are about implementation of some items, I can't see their logic (save it being hypocrisy) in allowing this.
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