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# 11
12-27-2012, 05:03 AM
We are subscribers/LTS.. We are a unwanted drain on their resources.

Get used to it.
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 12
12-27-2012, 05:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anazonda View Post
We are subscribers/LTS.. We are a unwanted drain on their resources.

Get used to it.
Actually the only ones that are drains are the free players. The ones who aren't monthlies/lifers/paid any money for this game. Players like me. We are the ones who are drains, since even though lifers get zen, and eventually pay it off, it's only in game currency, which can be created by a simple code.

You guys still paid them a nice chunk of cash, so you are still contributing more to their pocket books than any freebie players ever will.

However us freebie players drain their servers, we drain their time, their employees, etc. And we do it all without paying them a cent. We also acquire currency in game for free, whereas it could be bought with real money, we are just using in game money to get it. As a direct result, we are taxing their resources in game and outside of it without ever having compensated them for it.

So in comparison, you lifers and subscribers and anyone who ever paid them money are far better than freebies like me.
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Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 13
12-27-2012, 08:03 AM
One of the strongest Escorts in the game isn't strong enough?
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# 14
12-27-2012, 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anazonda View Post
We are subscribers/LTS.. We are a unwanted drain on their resources.

Get used to it.
If we were unwanted, they'd stop selling the LTS. There wouldn't even have been much outcry if they had, since most games stop far earlier than now in their life cycle.

The evidence suggests your conclusion is incorrect.
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 15
12-27-2012, 08:12 AM
I want a pony on the bridge of the Chimera, LOL

I think the Chimera is a good ship, if you dont have the Zen to buy a Real Ship. Its good for farming when you are a Lifetimer.
If you want a better Chimera, buy a Vesta, lol.
Captain
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# 16
12-27-2012, 08:17 AM
Well I see clear signs that Subscriptions are unwanted...

And generally it's my experience that people who prefer Cryptic, are unwilling to recognize those signs, and I won't try to force it on you.
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# 17
12-27-2012, 08:52 AM
I don't see any reason why they wouldn't offer a Fleet Chimera. Remember a Fleet version wouldn't be free, as you would still have to buy fleet modules to get it. So all this would end up doing is squeeze more money out of the lifetimers.

I don't think it would take too much work either. How much work does it take to copy/paste an existing ship into the fleet category, change its name a little bit, add a console, and buff its shield strength by 10%? That's really what most of the fleet ships are...
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# 18
12-27-2012, 09:43 AM
I think the most limiting factor of all this isn't really so much that they can't do it, it's that they'd have to somehow make it so only a Lifer could buy it in the first place. If anybody could buy it, that'd majorly tick off a lot of folks, not that I'd blame em, since the whole point is that it's a unique ship for Lifers.

On top of that, it'd also have to be put in a specific tier of shipyards, and well...too high and you make folks mad by preventing too many from getting it. Too low and every lifer will buy it easily. I'd say tier 3 shipyards myself.

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# 19
12-27-2012, 09:56 AM
As with other fleet ships, a Fleet Chimera could have the improved stats over the original version but lack the console that comes with it.

That way other players are able to get a Fleet Chimera but only the veterans and lifers get access to the tactical mode and the phaser lotus via the original console.

Same would apply to the KDF players and a Fleet Peqhu' or whatever it is called.
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# 20
12-27-2012, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by defalus View Post
As with other fleet ships, a Fleet Chimera could have the improved stats over the original version but lack the console that comes with it.

That way other players are able to get a Fleet Chimera but only the veterans and lifers get access to the tactical mode and the phaser lotus via the original console.

Same would apply to the KDF players and a Fleet Peqhu' or whatever it is called.

This!


I do laugh at people who can consider the current Chimera to be 'omg it is thu best escortz' as it simply isn't. RA Patrol escort is more effective, minus the console abilities. And theres plenty of 9 console store ships which are also superior.
Its stats are shoddy, it loses a console slot for the Tactical mode, Boff slots are questionable... I use mine as a phaser beam boat as thats the only fun way to play the damn thing. Most of the time it stays in the shipyard and I rock out with the Fleet 'Defiant' or Blockade Escort as they are both just so much better.

Dont get me wrong, I do like using it. It does have a few saving graces, and kudos to Cryptic for adding such a ship to the game. Its a cracking ship for someone who has no access to anything beyond RA. But as a Vet/Lifer who has it, you get a free VA ship anyway.

I must agree though, that a Fleet version would make a fine addition to the game provided the Vet/Lifers do still have something unique - The console.
Make a 10 console version, increase the hull and shield caps slightly, maybe give the Chimera an extra 0.5 shield cap over the Peghqu' to compensate the lack of Cloak.
And for lifers who already have one, a cost of just 1 Fleet Ship Module.

Make it tier 5, or even tier 6 when that arrives. Making it tier 3 is too low for what it potentially is.
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