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# 31
12-28-2012, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ghostivan View Post
what is an ATB build ?
Auxillary to Battery (AtB) is an ability that takes your existing Aux power and converts it to Weapons, Shields and Engine power for a limited duration while sinking your Aux to zero.

Used with 3 Technician DOff (Purple is best) the use of AtB has a chance to proc an very good reduction in cool downs on all your BOff abilities.

Use twin AtB with 3 Technicians and you can keep most of your abilities on a near-constant uptime.

for example;

Chimera

TT1 APd1 CRF2 ApO3
TT1
EPTS1 AtB1
EPTA1 AtB1 (DEM2/EWP1/RSP2/EXTS2)
HE1 TSS2

Such builds take timing and pratice to work right (or a good key bind) becuase of the Aux depletion, but when they do they can be very effective.
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# 32
12-28-2012, 07:25 AM
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ATB = Auxiliary to Battery. It drains your auxiliary power and increases your other power levels. Some players like it on escorts because they never use auxiliary power for anything.
Thats not intirely true. Most escort use TB, TSS, HE on thier builds. It just takes timing to use them before your AtB comes around.

I actually like the AtB designs more on my Cruisers/Battle Cruisers becuase it finally makes the vessels more competitive.

for example;

Fleet Assualt Cruiser

TT1 * APO1
*
EPTS1 AtB1
EPTA1 AtB1 EWP1
HE1 TSS2

* Desired weapon ability.
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# 33
12-28-2012, 12:55 PM
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Used with 3 Technician DOff (Purple is best) the use of AtB has a chance to proc an very good reduction in cool downs on all your BOff abilities.
Incorrect; there is no chance, it happens every time.

I tried Aux2Batt'ing but I didn't really care for it. You have to give up a pretty significant amount to make it work, between the BOFF and DOFF slots and not relying on your aux power for anything.

Personally I would have gone a completely different route in this game. I would have given ships an actual battery, and every time you use things like Emergency Power the battery gets depleted. It recharges by itself, but slowly, so Aux2Batt then becomes relevant as a way to juice up your ship's battery more quickly (thus allowing more frequent use of Emergency Power). Technicians would not reduce officer cooldown, they would instead impose a floor on the amount of Aux power you can have while using Aux2Batt, to prevent this ability consuming every ounce of Aux.
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# 34
12-28-2012, 01:09 PM
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Incorrect; there is no chance, it happens every time.

I tried Aux2Batt'ing but I didn't really care for it. You have to give up a pretty significant amount to make it work, between the BOFF and DOFF slots and not relying on your aux power for anything.
Not really I've had the Technicians miss thier proc chance before. It just doesn't happen that often as usually 1 of the 3 will proc.
The Aux depletion is manageble with timing. Which seems like a fair downside for using it.

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Personally I would have gone a completely different route in this game. I would have given ships an actual battery, and every time you use things like Emergency Power the battery gets depleted. It recharges by itself, but slowly, so Aux2Batt then becomes relevant as a way to juice up your ship's battery more quickly (thus allowing more frequent use of Emergency Power). Technicians would not reduce officer cooldown, they would instead impose a floor on the amount of Aux power you can have while using Aux2Batt, to prevent this ability consuming every ounce of Aux.
Sounds like a good idea.
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# 35
12-29-2012, 08:59 AM
Chimera certainly does not have superior stats across the board.
The Chimera is suited well to anyone inept at using a real Escort. A Cruiser player who wants to have a taste of Escort play, its a nice first step; but compared to any of the other 9 console escorts, even the 'Hermes', it is inferior for series Escort use.

Lets look at those "superior stats across the board"
  • Console layout is the same. Chimera loses one for the Tactical Mode console.
  • Shields are the same.
  • Weapons same.
  • Boff layout is essentially the same however the Chimera offers some flexibility thanks to Universal slots. Boff layout would be generally identical if you play the Chimera as an Escort anyway.
  • 'Hermes' has a superior turn rate of 16 compared to 14.
  • Chimera has one more Device slot, which most players don't use anyway.
  • Chimera has a higher crew count, useful but still not a high amount. 750 vs 200. Blah blah, 275% increase, same as alot of Sci vessels, still low compared to Cruisers.
  • Chimera has 3,500 more hull hit points. Approx 11% increase, a nominal value which makes no difference to a decent Escort player who should already be able to compensate for their low hull hp compared to other vessels.

That is the comparison to an RA rank free vessel. There are VA store vessels which are considerably better suited to an Escort roll than the Chimera.
You claim the Chimera far eclipses any ship I mentioned. That is terribly untrue. Seeing as you are so dependent on written stats for your facts, I suggest you actually take a look at the stats of the other ships mentioned. The Steamrunner Blockade escort and the Fleet 'Defiant' are both vastly superior to the Chimera in stats and in use.


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Now, before accusing your betters of poor reading comprehension, work on yours; because that was all already stated in the post you ing misread, you ****ing moron.

Now, regardless of differing opinion about useful stats to an Escort, your attitude is truly appalling. And you are certainly not in any way "better" than me.

"quiscustodiet" hinting towards "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" are we? Loosely translated as "Who will watch the watch?" Well I shall have to say "Who will Troll the Trolls?" because you sir are certainly a troll, here to pick a fight on a forum. How sad.
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# 36
12-29-2012, 05:50 PM
The Chimera is a Destroyer class vessel, which in STO puts its somewhere between an Escort and Cruiser. Speedy, with good damage capabilities and moderate defenses.

Why do people keep calling it an escort?

If you are not flying this thing as a cruiser hybrid, your doing it wrong.
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# 37
12-30-2012, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
The Chimera is a Destroyer class vessel, which in STO puts its somewhere between an Escort and Cruiser. Speedy, with good damage capabilities and moderate defenses.

Why do people keep calling it an escort?

If you are not flying this thing as a cruiser hybrid, your doing it wrong.
I must agree the chimera is a hybrid and in naval terms could be a light cruiser.

She is a nice ship, can handle herself well, I feel she gets bashed a bit to much at times as people don't always get the role the ship fills.
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# 38
12-30-2012, 06:12 AM
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Not really I've had the Technicians miss thier proc chance before. It just doesn't happen that often as usually 1 of the 3 will proc.
There is no chance to proc.

It's automatic and never fails.

Stacking multiple technicians means you shave that added percentage off of the CD.

i.e.

1 x VR Tech = -10% off CD.

3 x VR Techs = -30% off CD.


Last edited by ussultimatum; 12-30-2012 at 06:14 AM.
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# 39
12-30-2012, 02:47 PM
How about this?

Make it available with a Tier 2 shipyard. Give it +3400 hull, a 0.99 shield modifier and 1 extra engineering console.

The Patrol Escort is available at a Tier 1 shipyard, and the Chimera would be very similar, the only major difference being that it can use the Dynamic Tactical System. Keeping that in mind, I think needing a Tier 2 shipyard would be just fine.
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# 40
12-30-2012, 06:39 PM
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There is no chance to proc.

It's automatic and never fails.

Stacking multiple technicians means you shave that added percentage off of the CD.

i.e.

1 x VR Tech = -10% off CD.

3 x VR Techs = -30% off CD.
I always thought they had a procc chance to activate.
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