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# 1 Star Trek question
12-29-2012, 09:39 AM
Who or what are section 31? What are there jobs?
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# 2
12-29-2012, 09:42 AM
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Who or what are section 31? What are there jobs?
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Here.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Section_31
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# 3
12-29-2012, 09:50 AM
or

think of the scuzziest black ops outfit ever
basically they are starfleets version of Smersh
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12-29-2012, 12:40 PM
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think of the scuzziest black ops outfit ever
Yeah, those evil guys got a Romulan Tal Shiar director to pass along info to them, and forced the Founders to deal with their own mortality while they tried to enslave the Alpha Quadrant. Awful people.


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12-29-2012, 12:45 PM
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Yeah, those evil guys got a Romulan Tal Shiar director to pass along info to them
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leading to the deaths of himself and his family

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and forced the Founders to deal with their own mortality while they tried to enslave the Alpha Quadrant
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instituted Viral warfare and provoked the founders in the first place

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Awful people.
yep like all spys and spooks awful people

you missed a few

blackmailed a starfleet officer to betray his crew (more than once)
messed with time travel
killed at least one Admiral
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12-29-2012, 12:45 PM
Section 31 is the Federation's worst kept super secret.
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# 7
12-29-2012, 10:44 PM
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leading to the deaths of himself and his family
I'm sorry....what? I don't recall seeing that in the show. Must be from one of the novels/fanfics with covers. In either case, wouldn't that make the Romulans responsible?



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instituted Viral warfare and provoked the founders in the first place
I'm sorry....what? Last I checked, the war had its roots in the show "The Jem'Hadar", and the Founders were the aggressors as they had been in the past....or is this more non-canon/novel junk? FYI - Not everyone reads the Trek books, and not everyone who does, finds them entertaining.

So back to reality which is the shows and movies.......you were saying?


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yep like all spys and spooks awful people
And yet in reality, you're able to enjoy relative safety because of what they do.



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blackmailed a starfleet officer to betray his crew (more than once)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is from Enterprise?



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messed with time travel
Because no one else in the Trek universe ever does.




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killed at least one Admiral
More novel/fanfics with covers stuff?

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12-30-2012, 02:58 AM
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# 9
12-30-2012, 03:05 AM
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think of the scuzziest black ops outfit ever
basically they are starfleets version of Smersh
Aka Homeland Security... ...same **** different country.
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# 10
12-30-2012, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sollvax
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leading to the deaths of himself and his family

I'm sorry....what? I don't recall seeing that in the show. Must be from one of the novels/fanfics with covers. In either case, wouldn't that make the Romulans responsible?
The man inciting Treason carrys the blame for the execution of those killed

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instituted Viral warfare and provoked the founders in the first place

I'm sorry....what? Last I checked, the war had its roots in the show "The Jem'Hadar", and the Founders were the aggressors as they had been in the past....
yes well you did not check very clearly
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or is this more non-canon/novel junk? FYI - Not everyone reads the Trek books, and not everyone who does, finds them entertaining.

So back to reality which is the shows and movies.......you were saying?
the plan to kill the founders TRIGGERED the war



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yep like all spys and spooks awful people

And yet in reality, you're able to enjoy relative safety because of what they do.
you are bloody kidding?
Spys trigger wars , terrorist attacks and assassinations
Espionage agents are the main source of terrorism
look at the recent murders in Iran (by Intel agents from another middle eastern nation)
but thats politics
so best to drop it


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blackmailed a starfleet officer to betray his crew (more than once)

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is from Enterprise?
yes


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messed with time travel

Because no one else in the Trek universe ever does.
no one SANE does no


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killed at least one Admiral

More novel/fanfics with covers stuff?
nope
Remember 31 is behind the ENTIRE dominion war
the problems in enterprise
and possibly the stranding of voyager (soft canon so maybe not)
they even tried to mess with US here
never trust someone who kills his own side for political gain
or ANY breed of spook
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