Originally Posted by travelingmaster

Regarding the OP's claim that 'every skill has a counter', this is not entirely true. Most offensive abilities have some method of countering, but there are few ways of clearing defensive abilities. Subnuke is one of the few. Target has Tactical Team, EPtS2/3, and TSS2/3 up? Subnuke it. If they're a decent tank, they'll have a science team somewhere in there.

Subnuke is literally one of the very few ways to break a good tanker, someone who's got their defensive buffs chained together flawlessly and has great timing on their cycles. I don't like it when it's used on me in my Hegh'ta BoP, as that strikes me as overkill, but I sure do appreciate it when someone subnukes a target and I time a decloak alphastrike with it.

Originally Posted by alexindcobra

Look at this way.

Example 1: I hit EPE to make manuver around an enemy when he hits me with Warp Plasma. My ship stalls and makes me vulnerable to attack. I hit hazzard emitters, which not only clears the plasma effect but returns me to the speed that EPE gave me. That is, in effect, returning the buff that was nullified.

Example 2: I fly with my Tac team active, I am hit with Target Shield generator, my shield face drops, and I hit EPS to return the shield face to full and my Tac Team is back in effect. Anthother example of the buff being returned.

Example 3: I am hit with a Boarding Party and one or more of susbsystems are disabled. I hit Eng Team and the all subsystems are returned to normal with whatever buff I had already activated.

Why would it be wrong for Sci Team to return the buffs with remaining times, 2 seconds or 15 seconds?

Originally Posted by tangolight

#1: Does Hazard Emitters give you back the damage that the warp plasma did? No. It heals you, but that amount healed is completely independent of the damage warp plasma did.

#2: Tac team was never gone. If you got hit by a tactical debuff, like Fire on my Mark while your shields were offline, Tac Team would still clear it, even though it's not doing anything for your shields.

#3: Engineering Team removes the ongoing effect, but won't restore, say, any crew that was lost from the boarding party.

Originally Posted by hereticknight085

Which is exactly what I said in my most recent post, which OP conveniently ignored. As he always does. If you really want us to take your posts seriously alex, don't ignore posts that debunk your statements completely.

Originally Posted by baudl

captain kirk does not take advice, he gives advice to the developers to change the game to fit his playstyle.
you can write another 10 pages contradicting his observations and opinions and he will ignore them...try to agree with him, he will stop ignoring your posts. Try it!

Originally Posted by mb52

Considering how badly nerfed SCI powers are already... let SCIs have this one thing.

Originally Posted by alexindcobra

You still didn't say why that Science team shouldn't restore the buffs.

Those other examples are abilities that attack speed , subsystems or shielding. Just because the buff is showing don't mean its doing anything. I was comparing the feel. TT don't do anything with the missing shield face dissabled, and we are not talking about a 5 on 1 situation. You can not hit a person from several sides by yourself.

Originally Posted by alexindcobra

Yeah, you are right. I forgot about Plasmonic Leech. I have yet to find a counter for that.

Originally Posted by travelingmaster

Carry MACO shields.

Originally Posted by bitemepwe

Or just skill in drain resistance. Last thread I read on the subject after the PL changes said that being so skilled greatly reduced the effects.