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# 31
01-01-2013, 05:10 AM
Perhaps, 'The Weak' is how the Undine refered to the Borg... I agree with the above assessment, that once they'd trashed the Borg, they would most likely have returned to fluidic space.
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# 32
01-01-2013, 09:17 AM
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Perhaps, 'The Weak' is how the Undine refered to the Borg... I agree with the above assessment, that once they'd trashed the Borg, they would most likely have returned to fluidic space.
Then why send a cryptic warning to Kes? Why threaten to destroy Voyager? The Undine must have known they weren't Borg.
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# 33
01-01-2013, 09:48 AM
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Then why send a cryptic warning to Kes? Why threaten to destroy Voyager? The Undine must have known they weren't Borg.
Was it definitely a message to Kes, or did she just pick up on their 'ship to ship' communications?

Of course, from a plot point of view, they had to be seen as a credible threat, or indeed, the crew could have allied with them to defeat the Borg, but that wasn't the way the producers wanted the plot to go...
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# 34
01-01-2013, 09:51 AM
Consider

Kes intercepts the communication

"Hello voyager , we detect that you are weak against the infestation known as the borg , against such strength the weak shall perish , please allow us to dock so that we may open first contact and treat your wounded crewman who we regretable harmed"

but due to her dizzy blonde brain and being only a kid
she only got the bits in red ??
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# 35
01-01-2013, 09:54 AM
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She could've either worn Kes' handmedowns, or other suitable civilian attire, rather than the catsuit...
That is just blasphemous!
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# 36
01-01-2013, 10:02 AM
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Seven should have been blown out an airlock and phasered into molecules

Borg is Borg

as to a deal with the devil

"remodulate the deflector array and collapse fluidic space around the borg ships "
thus killing BOTH races

its what The real captains would have done (well actually picard would have negotiated a three way peace over tea and cake )
Luckily Riker et al. disagreed with that assertion over rescuing Picard, who was brought back to the human species and went on to save the Federation and the time continuum. I guess they shouldn't have bothered, or better yet, still gone through with the rescue, but airlocked him Laura Roslin->Leoben Conoy/Number Two style...

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There was no place on voyager for a borg
I agree, then again Seven was no longer Borg as she had her Humanity returned to her, albeit slightly augmented out of necessity, just like people with pacemakers, cochlear implants and artificial hips.
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# 37
01-01-2013, 10:03 AM
She should have been blown out the airlock

look how many times she betrayed or endangered the crew
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# 38
01-01-2013, 10:11 AM
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Consider

Kes intercepts the communication

"Hello voyager , we detect that you are weak against the infestation known as the borg , against such strength the weak shall perish , please allow us to dock so that we may open first contact and treat your wounded crewman who we regretable harmed"

but due to her dizzy blonde brain and being only a kid
she only got the bits in red ??
Considered...

What was the message she intercepted?
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# 39
01-01-2013, 10:13 AM
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That is just blasphemous!
I'm sure she'd've filled them out nicely, without it being so obvious
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# 40
01-01-2013, 10:16 AM
Hard to remember

but she almost definately got it wrong

imagine a small child taking a phone message
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