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# 11
01-03-2013, 04:35 AM
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I have no VM, no SS, no GW... well, I do have delta flyers.

So maybe fight my EPtW tac cruiser? But I guess I should swap ES for EWP for a duel and replace ST with HE.
oh a vesta eh? no vm? that is my 1 weakness, just like everyone else lol. must be shield striping or power draining, interesting. i have ~130 insulators running on average though, so good luck with that.

a tac cruiser duel? whoever more effectively uses GDF is most likely to win. and with no closer with the singles it will be grueling. im fairly sure my build style is better, but i doubt im quite the pilot, or opportunity exploiting master that you are. that will make all the difference in such a match.

both would be interesting and fun.
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# 12
01-03-2013, 04:37 AM
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oh a vesta eh? no vm? that is my 1 weakness, just like everyone else lol. must be shield striping or power draining, interesting. i have ~130 insulators running on average though, so good luck with that.
It's true, duels between tacs boil down to who has GDF up at the right time.

But my scisci vesta also is not build around shield stripping or power drains. It's all about the EPtW and beams.
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# 13
01-03-2013, 04:58 AM
Have Zorena fraps the encounter.

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# 14
01-03-2013, 05:00 AM
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It's true, duels between tacs boil down to who has GDF up at the right time.

But my scisci vesta also is not build around shield stripping or power drains. It's all about the EPtW and beams.
I can say that his science is so good i copied his build (slightly mai kai-modified) and it is awesome. although with my generic sci skill tree spec i'm not doing as much as hilbert though :/
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Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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# 15
01-03-2013, 06:09 AM
Thought this games pvp was 85% balanced?
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# 16
01-03-2013, 06:31 AM
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Thought this games pvp was 85% balanced?
well if we go by cryptic math... 1% is supposed to be low.... but ends up being way to often, 20% seens to happen all the time...

so......
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# 17
01-03-2013, 10:29 AM
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Thought this games pvp was 85% balanced?
and it is. this wouldn't push the boundaries of damage, it just rearranges things slightly between the goal posts. it would just make a few things less worthless, and beam arrays better when someone puts effort into making them deal damage.

biggest reason im pushing for this is the inequity between kdf and fed cruisers tactically. you could set up a kdf cruiser to be a beam array heal boat like any fed cruiser, or you could make it a tactical force to be reckoned with, an escort replacement. cant do that on a fed cruiser, and why? theres no objective out of universe reason for it.

remember when FAW was dangerous? well normal beam arrays would be closer to that, but not quite. back in the lol faw days they were over powered, now they are pretty deeply underpowered. i see the change making them deal damage a bit more like the old FAW days, but it would only be to a single target at a time

and who doesn't think DCs need a buff? and why not make singles a more desirable weapon? the heavy single cannon already exists in game
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# 18
01-03-2013, 12:23 PM
If they really want to fix weapon imbalances in this game. (which we know they do not)

All they have to do is return to the OLD weapon drain system.

The one that favored Engis with Nadion and EPS Heavily.... and forced escorts with 4 dhc to run 2-3 EPS units to keep that sort of setup feed.

Your right the issue right now is your power just automajixly Returns the second the weapon cycle is finished... making DHC king. (they where still king before... it just forced people dedicating there entire weapon array to Energy to run at min 1 EPS unit... I think with the skill revamp and the extra bit of EPS everyone gets no for free the system would NOT screw over pve people that refuse to run EPS units for STFS)
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# 19
01-03-2013, 01:03 PM
Can I watch this, I've yet to see an AtB build in action, if what I've read here is correct I might modify my build
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# 20
01-03-2013, 01:04 PM
if i run a kdf battle cruiser with 4 DHC and 4 turrets, it doesn't even have close to the power drain an 8 array fed cruiser has, a further advantage. its the same with escorts, no amount of energy weapons is to many to easily power for them. the only point of worry is with BO use, but generally 1 EPS console is enough to minimize its impact
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