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# 11
01-03-2013, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
before you flat out "give up" do you try to organize your pug team by saying "focus fire and stick together"? its amazing how effective a little communication can go in this game, even against "premades". not all 5 man teams from the same fleet are a premade. sometimes theyre just grouped together.
Again, speaking honestly and from my own experiences, after a point i gave in on communication, its either ignored fully or ridiculed (e.g. i have been in elite STFS and been told off for "talking too much"..), or ultimately not enough, ill not deny im not the strongest, and even if i can get 2/3 people to focus fire with me, the damage is glanced off and patched up all too quickly, (while getting pugs to cross heal can be like taking blood from a stone :p)

While true, i find it hard that coincidence would give 5 people from the same fleet,.. so many times :p, i guess i can agree there

And there is always the true statement 'fight premade with premade' but quick answer, i dont want to. its such a hassle, i would much rather see specific pvp instances for fleets/premades and pugs
though i know that can never happen, seeing how hard it is to get a match going sometimes can be..
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# 12
01-03-2013, 12:51 PM
Shanksboy ,come join the House of Beautiful Orions.You will never feel intimidated by anyone


On a sidenote: Isnt it ironic that the ONE player that is most FAMOUS and well known for warping out in Arenas when he had to face TSI or other premade,openly accusing them of cheating and exploiting is the very one that is organizing the new "clean " pvp tournament?

Well,i guess after 3 years in this game,some of us knows just the "who is who" of STO pvp.
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# 13
01-03-2013, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by elandarksky View Post
And there is always the true statement 'fight premade with premade' but quick answer, i dont want to. its such a hassle, i would much rather see specific pvp instances for fleets/premades and pugs
though i know that can never happen, seeing how hard it is to get a match going sometimes can be..
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# 14
01-03-2013, 02:00 PM
Loggers, afkers, and warpers are worthless. I have no interest in these people or their fragile egos. By the by, doing any of these things is more harmful to the enjoyment of fellow players than a super griefing mega evil premade. Don't think your refusal to play makes you any less awful than whatever evil you think you face.

Rationalize it however you want.
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# 15
01-03-2013, 02:42 PM
It's a bit silly if you want the match over quicker to hide, better just to get in there and die. I am hopeless as an engineer + dreadnought in pvp - if any of the other team are in an escort anyway, but I die as good as anyone , and have fun doing it.

Gotta just be able to accept that you'll die in pvp, that's always part of it in any game, unless you're in a super escort with focused fire teammates. I prefer the control matches for this reason myself, as people waste their time shooting at me , and the deaths don't add to the score.
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# 16
01-03-2013, 04:15 PM
To explore another side of this:

Being part of several well performing premade teams on a couple well known fleets in the past... I can actually say I love both pugging and premade matches, as well as being part of a pug against a premade.

Unfortunately, the downside is... As soon as someone sees "Damian" on the other side, I tend to be one of the first targets. I enjoy that too. I feel respected and feared. But, it does get old quick if its a pug v pug match being the ONLY guy being targeted....

I mean, puggers will absolutely ignore everyone on my team! And save all of their nukes and grav pulses and thetas and ams just for me.

And ain't that special.

I guess what I'm trying to say is..... It's a game. Win or lose, swallow your pride once in a while.... Die a few times. It's all part of the game. Have fun, and be okay having fun being blown up..... I do.

Have fun kill bad guys

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# 17
01-03-2013, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thishorizon View Post
Unfortunately, the downside is... As soon as someone sees "Damian" on the other side, I tend to be one of the first targets. I enjoy that too. I feel respected and feared. But, it does get old quick if its a pug v pug match being the ONLY guy being targeted....
That's what my fleet does when we go into a pug match. Go after the people from established fleets first, or people we know who are pretty good.

Though, if it's an inexperience team, we'll usually break off and just target at will. Or, at least I do anyways.
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# 18
01-03-2013, 05:13 PM
Thanks for the comments but i have a feeling this post is running off in the wrong direction of pug v premade...the OP was about some1 not going into battle because of a few members of a well known premade being in arena which i have no problem with...where myself i know wot can and will happen when i pug....i was just shocked thats all as i had never seen it happen before


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# 19
01-03-2013, 05:54 PM
But the reason this player refused to fight, was because it was a premade or partial premade team. It's the root of what the problem is.

Nothing is going astray here man. Attack the root of the problem, try to appeal to people who read this thread and may not post. Explore all options, and try to reason.
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# 20
01-03-2013, 06:53 PM
As much as I like moaning about TSI, it's not their fault. The same thing happens when people fly a certain ship. I was roasted in Kerrat yesterday because I was in a Jemmy and thus "unbeatable" it was only when I shared some tips and pointed out I can be easily be beaten but people in "lesser" ships did he fight and take part again.

People see a well known tag, or a well known player or in my case a well known ship and just assume.

@TSI - Once you've beaten the Pugs, mention the Bootcamp in chat, or offer your help.

BRING DOWN BARRIERS MAN!
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