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This is a good point actually. I think that ENT played up the "Prequelness" of it a bit too much, rather than portraying it as something big and epic for it's time it was "Oh how cute, warp 5 is a big deal now".
They did that with a lot of things in ENT, and I think that goes a long way to explain why it failed as a series.
Hmmm... some of that was due to the Vulcans. The crew of the NX-01 knew that Vulcan tech was better than what they had on their ship. That was an early source of friction in the series.
I saw an episode of ENT once on TV. I think I flipped to the channel just after the intro song, so I probably was saved from eternal scarring. So I watch this silly episode about Hoshi getting into some transporter accident and they think she got turned into this green goop in a hallway. Hoshi (now invisible, intangible, and can mess with machines somehow) ends up getting out and beams onto a transporter pad. Some person tells her it has only been eight seconds that she was caught in the 'porter.
I kind of said "WTH?" and have never seen a single episode since.
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Hmmm... some of that was due to the Vulcans. The crew of the NX-01 knew that Vulcan tech was better than what they had on their ship. That was an early source of friction in the series.
This is something JJ also did better than ENT did. The big scary Narada has several hundred years of advancement on the Enterprise. But by having the cast use the element of surprise, and hit and run tactics against the Narada, the power of the Enterprise isn't diminished. Also, it's the ******ned Enterprise (even if the nacelles and pew pew cannons look stupid).
The NX-01 just feels...... quaint. Cute even. That's not a good thing.
Plus it looks like it's from Star Craft. That is definitely not a good thing.
I saw an episode of ENT once on TV. I think I flipped to the channel just after the intro song, so I probably was saved from eternal scarring. So I watch this silly episode about Hoshi getting into some transporter accident and they think she got turned into this green goop in a hallway. Hoshi (now invisible, intangible, and can mess with machines somehow) ends up getting out and beams onto a transporter pad. Some person tells her it has only been eight seconds that she was caught in the 'porter.
I kind of said "WTH?" and have never seen a single episode since.
How is that any better or worse than the half dozen or so episodes in all the other Trek series, that used the same theme?
For example...
The episode with Lt. Barkley seeing floating blobs while in the transporter (Realm of Fear).
Or even the one where Picard and friends get turned into children (Rascals).
Perspective my friend, perspective.
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2. Most episodes seemed geared towards having the camera linger on T'Pols lady bits. Which are nice lady bits, but I want cake to go with my icing.
3. Wasted potential. As a prequel it should have focused on the effort it took to create the UFP we know and love, with intrigue and interweaving arcs like DS9. But what we got was another TNG-lite show like Voyager.
4. The crew were written with the personalities of white bread. The dog had more charm.
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To me the first 3 seasons didn't feel like star trek. The used temporal issues way way too much. The other series used them once in a while and it was pretty good story telling but in enterprise it became the driving force. I think they might have gotten away with an episode a season dealing with it.
The large story arcs were a bit much. I know I can pop in a DVD and watch a single episode and leave it. If you want to watch just the Xindi story arc you need to pretty much watch all of season 3.
T'Pol was used way too much as a sex symbol. The whole trellium-d drug abuse didn't sit well either.
As far as the borg is concerned that episode was very wrong. I understand they were suppose to be from first contact but the borg never identified themselves even though it would normally be the first thing out of their mouths. They also managed to get more shots off with their phase pistols then they ever did on the Enterprise E with remodulating rifles. Ect.
I digress. There are too many things one can focus on. Season 4 was the best season. There were a few others gems in the pervious seasons that is worth looking at. For example "North Star" had a nice trek feel to it. "Carbon Creek" should also be considered.
I wish they had taken the opportunity to explore a bit more into the culture of the different founding species of the federation. While they did touch on the dispute between Vulcan and Andoria there was a lot more they could have done.
The best character in the series imo was Thy'lek Shran. Jeffrey Combs gets all the best part.
Either way as a whole I did not care for the series.
I celebrated the day the Temporal War ended. Season Four was by far the best. If the series had another year, it could have taken off.
My understanding about the time travelling Nazi's were that they were added for the third season finale as a push to get the series renewed for a fourth season. I mean, who wanted to end the series with a shuttlepod randomly being strafed by P-51's after they just saved the universe.
I was also apparently the only one in the world who really liked the theme song.
On a slightly different tangent, I cringed when I saw that John Billingsley (Phlox) was playing the resident expert in 2012 (the movie). He must have been hard up for work.
I was also apparently the only one in the world who really liked the theme song.
This. I quite liked the song. And the show was rather enjoyable. Every show (Except TOS) took a while to take off. TNG & VOY were a bit dull until the Borg showed up. DS9 wasn't very good until the Dominion War started. If it had gone another few seasons, I think ENT would've been a really good show.
I celebrated the day the Temporal War ended. Season Four was by far the best. If the series had another year, it could have taken off.
My understanding about the time travelling Nazi's were that they were added for the third season finale as a push to get the series renewed for a fourth season. I mean, who wanted to end the series with a shuttlepod randomly being strafed by P-51's after they just saved the universe.
I was also apparently the only one in the world who really liked the theme song.
On a slightly different tangent, I cringed when I saw that John Billingsley (Phlox) was playing the resident expert in 2012 (the movie). He must have been hard up for work.
Well, they needed to end the Time War with a big bad guy. That guy fit the bill.
At the risk of starting a flame war...I think Enterprise was as good as DS9. At least, it's just as much fun to watch.
The storywriting, while not exceptional in the first two seasons, did a lot to set the stage: we have humanity taking its first real steps toward space exploration (very cool to see) Archer and T'Pol struggling to overcome their preconceptions (like us), the Vulcan High Command watching over their shoulders (don't we all hate that?), Shran and the Andorians (Jeffery Combs! ), and the Temporal Cold War (well...it wasn't that bad).
Season three had the ship on a mission to stop the Xindi from wiping out Earth. This was done to reflect the War on Terror on Earth, and had Archer and company struggling with their ethics more than a few times (also like us).
Season four: brilliant! Undoubtedly the golden era of Enterprise - augments from the Eugenics Wars (Brent Spiner! ), more Andorians, resolution with the Vulcans, the growing threat of the Romulans (who will ultimately declare war the very next year), and xenophobic humans trying to undermine everything Starfleet and United Earth stand for. This is possibly my favorite Trek season, period.
Enterprise is a massively underrated series, and I desperately hope that in time it will receive the praise it rightfully deserves.
On a final note, the NX-01 is my favorite ship EVER. If you think it's ugly, check out the following images: