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# 31 Fighter nerf.
01-16-2013, 12:02 AM
In a way I like the 24, because now I feel like a real carrier. In a way if I had to devote a weapon slot or a console or two to hold this many, I'd stick with it.
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# 32
01-16-2013, 06:18 AM
and now that the cat is out of the bag on this all I'm seeing in PVP is Recluse Carriers with Scorpions........

how is this not broken when no other carrier has the ability to have a comparable compliment of fighters.... if this is something they plan to keep around then ALL carriers and ships with hangars should have the capacity of ALL pets improved tro the same level of deployment... Vestas, Armatages, Vo'Quv, Kar'Fi, Orion, Atrox all of them... total of 12 fighters and or 8 shuttles/BoPs per hangar...... for ALL ships that can launch fighters or shuttles.... BUT at one time the carriers could deploy 3 wings of fighters or Shuttles but it got tuned back because people complained about all of the spam..... so they really need to fix this Recluse-Scorpion Problem and quickly.... its already getting out of hand.... Im seeing this broken combination in PVP AND in STF's.... it needs fixed and it needs fixed yesterday
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# 33
01-23-2013, 11:56 AM
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You say this like it's supposed to be self-evidentally horrifying, but I don't get it. What's so bad about giving good firepower to massive ships that have the turning of a pregnant glacier and tactical initiative measured in negative numbers?
Because they also bring outstanding science and tanking abilities... this isn't quantum mechanics.

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# 34
01-23-2013, 07:00 PM
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I tried the Rare and Very Rare scorps and ended up going back to the Delta Flyers once I got the Elite Scorpions I slotted them and never looked back.... cant wait to see what Tier 5 Science pets look like...
I am thinking of doing the same with my Advanced Perigrines The Scorp doesn't do much.
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# 35
01-24-2013, 07:15 AM
I'm undecided about the Scorps - I got a pair of the Elite ones for my Kar'fi and I can't honestly say that they feel any better than the Very-Rare S'kuls or Frigates I was using before - for one thing, the HY Torps they fire are so slow that by the time they get to their target it's usually already dead - yes, they retarget but if you're using them in something like Cure they just fly back and forth without ever hitting anything.

So the jury's still out for me but if I could get a refund on the Dilithium spent to acquire them, I probably would.
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# 36
01-24-2013, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by andoriansrus View Post
and now that the cat is out of the bag on this all I'm seeing in PVP is Recluse Carriers with Scorpions........

how is this not broken when no other carrier has the ability to have a comparable compliment of fighters.... if this is something they plan to keep around then ALL carriers and ships with hangars should have the capacity of ALL pets improved tro the same level of deployment... Vestas, Armatages, Vo'Quv, Kar'Fi, Orion, Atrox all of them... total of 12 fighters and or 8 shuttles/BoPs per hangar...... for ALL ships that can launch fighters or shuttles.... BUT at one time the carriers could deploy 3 wings of fighters or Shuttles but it got tuned back because people complained about all of the spam..... so they really need to fix this Recluse-Scorpion Problem and quickly.... its already getting out of hand.... Im seeing this broken combination in PVP AND in STF's.... it needs fixed and it needs fixed yesterday
IMO dedicated carriers should be capable of this, as the recluse, but hybrids should not. I am a huge fan of the hybrid carriers dont get me wrong, but with a dedicated carrier you basically give up one front weapon slot, basically your turning capability, and you get some hull plus one more hangarbay... even though I love the idea of the full on carriers, I just do not feel the need, to use one, as a hybrid carrier is simply better for allaround purposes.
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# 37
01-24-2013, 08:07 AM
I tried them and used them on my Armitage and with a rom plasma built they wail. I was surprised when I did Kase and everything got killed so fast. Definitly love them and seriously can't wait to see what elite peregrine and others will be able to do.

Dangerous pets I don't see any problems with them Other than spamming too much on recluse those are great pets and should stay as is, they are elite so they should do lots of damage.

But of course, as happen way too much lately, pvper will cry OP and demand a nerf. Well you have to adapt and overcome, nobody said nerf escort they do stupid amount of damage (well some do..), you change your built and tactics to overcome the problem, do the same for pets.

So to answer OP question, I definitly recommend them
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