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# 21
01-17-2013, 12:38 PM
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Just gotta love how the Enterprise-B was the closest ship in range, despite being at Earth (or at very least, Sol System)? You'd think the Federation homeworld would have I dunno, more than one ship there...
Can you imagine what it would be in real life.

"Captain, there's an emergency in Sector 441."

"Who is the closest starship?"

"The U.S.S. George Takai, sir."

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# 22
01-17-2013, 12:38 PM
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Alan Ruck is the name you're looking for. And IMO he did what the story needed, which was to be not fully confident so Kirk could be Kirk. Always liked that actor myself and I figure his character probably did a bet better as captain once he got some experience under his belt. After all, not everyone can hit a lead-off home run the first at-bat of their rookie year, right?
Thanks for the name! Was he a rookie Captain? Didn't realize that and it does surprise me as this was the Enterprise after all.

I don't disagree with your statment and as a character I do agree. However, as an actor I still think he lacked presence much in the same way as Chris Evans did when acting along side Robert Downey Jr. in the Avengers. Both great actors in their own films but put together and unfortunately one lost presence somewhat.

That being said I would have been completely happy to watch Alan Ruck captain the Enterprise B for a seven year journey into the Trek universe via Tele whilst the TNG made movies!
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# 23
01-17-2013, 12:48 PM
I always figured the B had an uneventful career (post-Generations) and was retired when the C was coming online. As far as I know, 1701, C, and D are the only ones to have ever been destroyed ("officially").
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# 24
01-17-2013, 12:52 PM
That's why we keep an armada at Earth now.

Captain we have a distress call.

What ship is the closest

The USS NOOBKILLER a bunch of Normandys the Enterherprize

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# 25
01-17-2013, 12:53 PM
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Thanks for the name! Was he a rookie Captain? Didn't realize that and it does surprise me as this was the Enterprise after all.

I don't disagree with your statment and as a character I do agree. However, as an actor I still think he lacked presence much in the same way as Chris Evans did when acting along side Robert Downey Jr. in the Avengers. Both great actors in their own films but put together and unfortunately one lost presence somewhat.

That being said I would have been completely happy to watch Alan Ruck captain the Enterprise B for a seven year journey into the Trek universe via Tele whilst the TNG made movies!
According to the same Haynes workshop manual that lists the ship's ultimate fate, apparently Harriman didn't resume command after that maiden voyage until the late 2290s, with her 'first five year mission' being under the command of a chap named William George.

Harriman's command lasted until 2311 (so we could say about 10 years) before he stepped down after the Tomed incident, handing command to Demora Sulu.

Demora's command lasted until about 2320, with the ship's final command being under Thomas Johnson Jr, who was apparently in command when the ship was lost in '29.

Either way, it's a very long service history... There is genuinely a lot of story potential there.
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# 26
01-17-2013, 01:14 PM
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According to the same Haynes workshop manual that lists the ship's ultimate fate, apparently Harriman didn't resume command after that maiden voyage until the late 2290s, with her 'first five year mission' being under the command of a chap named William George.

Harriman's command lasted until 2311 (so we could say about 10 years) before he stepped down after the Tomed incident, handing command to Demora Sulu.

Demora's command lasted until about 2320, with the ship's final command being under Thomas Johnson Jr, who was apparently in command when the ship was lost in '29.

Either way, it's a very long service history... There is genuinely a lot of story potential there.
I have to get the Haynes manual! That sounds interesting and I really wish these concepts were devloped into reality. Particularly as Star Trek has been around for so long now. I once read that Paramount will most likely always make a Star Trek movie simply because no matter what it makes it's money back... so why not take the chance on a new crew and maybe even a new ship (name)?!

Some of the fan made stuff on YouTube even has a lot of potential and in saying that, some of the production really isnt even that bad. Anyways, if only we were hundred-billionaires and could make all the Trek we wanted too!
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# 27
01-17-2013, 01:29 PM
i like to think that the uss enteprise ncc-1701-bata from star trek generations and uss lakota from ds9 lost paradice as being the same ship. starfleet did not make very many exclior enterprie subclass command ships. the entprise crew could got badly sick or gone missing but before all cew vanished there was a message sent to starfleet and some one programed the enterprise b to return to starfleet at low impulse til the feul ran out and driffted in 2329. for 10 year befor the enterprise c found the enterprise b driffting towards starfleet base. the enterprise c crew investagated the enterprise b and towd to the nearest starbase. starfleet ordered the enterprise b to go to dry dock for major repairs and refit for active duty and the recressend uss lakota cause starfleet did not want 2 enterprises to be inservice at the same time.
what happened to the lakota after lost paradice
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# 28
01-17-2013, 01:38 PM
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i like to think that the uss enteprise ncc-1701-bata from star trek generations and uss lakota from ds9 lost paradice as being the same ship. starfleet did not make very many exclior enterprie subclass command ships. the entprise crew could got badly sick or gone missing but before all cew vanished there was a message sent to starfleet and some one programed the enterprise b to return to starfleet at low impulse til the feul ran out and driffted in 2329. for 10 year befor the enterprise c found the enterprise b driffting towards starfleet base. the enterprise c crew investagated the enterprise b and towd to the nearest starbase. starfleet ordered the enterprise b to go to dry dock for major repairs and refit for active duty and the recressend uss lakota cause starfleet did not want 2 enterprises to be inservice at the same time.
what happened to the lakota after lost paradice
Where did you read this? Sounds like a terribly sad end for the Enterprise B....
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# 29
01-17-2013, 02:20 PM
This thread has definitely got me thinking about making an Enterprise B focused Foundry mission. Maybe I could make it like a holodeck program, where the player takes on the role of Ent-B captain. That way at least I wouldn't have to abuse time travel.
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# 30
01-17-2013, 03:02 PM
i have always wonder ever seeing the uss lakota in ds9 lost pardise if the lakota was the same ship and the uss enterprice b and i kinda pictured that the emterprise c found the enterprise some time after it was lost it crew or was abandoned. also both the lakota and enterprised be enterprise be that not ready for command of a ship john hirriman in startrek generations or broke the federation rule of law benteen in lost paradice.

granted that starfleet wanted to respec the families of the lost crew of the enterprise c show waited 20 years for to launch a new enterprise d. what if starfleet had a ship to take up that role of fleet flagship the uss lakota which was named enterprise b in 2293 which honored the role a flag ship enperprise/lakota for about 20 yearsbetween 2344 to 2362/early 2363 til a few days bebore the enterprise d was launched
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