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# 11
01-19-2013, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by age03 View Post
I wouldn't of used anti proton as wellas any beam weapon.You don't have any torps which the BoP is know for.Beamoverload is not needed as you should have yield torpedo instead.

I would respec if I were you in projectile weapons not just energy as the cloak is useless.

This my Fed Tac spec build although I have changed my Boff skills around since then.

http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skil...r/?build=Age_0
Actually what you are talking about is a B'rel Torpedo/Mine boat, using the Enhanced Battle Cloak to it's fullest advantage, laying down mines and firing torps with relatively impunity until a Sci Officer catches wind and blows his ass up

What Bespin is doing is the classic BOP Alpha Striker, decloak, destroy the target, and GTFO until he can recloak and go back on the hunt.

That build requires Dual Beam Banks, Dual Heavy Cannons, and/or Torpedoes is some combination.
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 12
01-19-2013, 01:25 AM
Ii think that's just some random fed that thissler has beat down on and he's come on here to cry and mess with your build

The cloak is brilliant it is key that 5seconds coming out of cloak needs utilising so the more buffs and Boff skills you can use the better

I use 2 dhc 1dbb and 1 torp that seems to work really well

Although the main thing that can make a bop alpha strike as deadly as some videos going around is practice I was flying around with 4 cannons for a while and getting nowhere until I switched to this setup

Antiproton would be perfect the stronger the crits and the higher the amount the better

Good luck
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# 13
01-19-2013, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
I got back in my Hoh'sus today with my tac and put together a new build, its doing great for pvp.
It crits all the time, especially if you hit them while tractor beamed before they break out of it, the BO3 and THY2 quantums have led to many near instant kills. Its not really optimized for pve, but the devestating alpha strike power lets it solo cubes on elite pretty fast. This build needs accurate trait and max targting systems, without that, weapons with 1 or 2 acc mods and the rest crit mods might work better.

Fore- 2x Disruptor DHC, 1x Disruptor DBB, 1x Quantum torp. (all weapons CrtHx3)
Aft- 2x Disruptor turrets

Deflector- Omega
Engines- Honor Guard
Shield- Honor Guard

Eng - 1x assimilated module, 2x neutronium
Sci- 1 tachykinetic converter, 1 zero point energy conduit, 1 field generator
tac- 4x disruptor console

Cmdr tac- TT1, CRF1, BO3, APO3
Lt tac- TT1, THY2

Lt Cmdr sci - TB1, TSS2, HE3

Lt eng- EPTS1, EPTS2
If you use TB, you don't need the acc. Def goes to zero in a TB, so you're going to hit and likely crit. If you don't use TB, acc x3 will get you around 75% hits with BO3.

You really don't even need the cannons. I reccomend you don't even fire them until the moment you trigger the BO3. People see cannon fire they tend to react if they are able. By the time they see BO3, they're dead.

Go 3 pc KHG, as you don't need the acc from Omega deflector. You really will like the 3 piece set bonus.


Happy flying!!!
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# 14
01-19-2013, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by thissler View Post
If you use TB, you don't need the acc. Def goes to zero in a TB, so you're going to hit and likely crit. If you don't use TB, acc x3 will get you around 75% hits with BO3.

You really don't even need the cannons. I reccomend you don't even fire them until the moment you trigger the BO3. People see cannon fire they tend to react if they are able. By the time they see BO3, they're dead.

Go 3 pc KHG, as you don't need the acc from Omega deflector. You really will like the 3 piece set bonus.


Happy flying!!!
I have noticed many times the BO and HY kill the targets before I even need to fire cannons. Sometimes when after killing a first target, I can use the cannons to attack and help bring down a second target instead of immediatley recloaking, so I am firing at targets sometimes that arent tractored. I notice I can still get enough hits to do decent damage on targets without any acc mods sometimes.

I use the 3pc set sometimes, I like the def bonus and being able to hide while capping for a little while so I may try that again, thanks.

Last edited by marc8219; 01-19-2013 at 08:03 AM.
Captain
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# 15
01-19-2013, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bespin18 View Post
none of what you said made any sense to me lol why no DBB and how does an all energy build make cloak useless? and sorry buy a fed tac build is no good to me considering the feds dont have anything like the BoP
also whats wrong with antiproton weaponry, i figured crit would be a good thing for a tac officer in a BoP?
It would if you were a Tac officer and no dbb because it is not needed .Eergy build makes the battle cloak useless because you can't fire you energy weapons under cloak,where did I say buy Tac build I said I would resec if I were you as you have no points in projectile weapons and stealth.It doesn't matter wether you see my build or not I do do extreme amounts of dps with that.

High Crit maybe nice but it is Torps that do the over all damage and if you want damage get dsiruptors but you still need torps.

I don't think you know much about this ship so you need to read up on it and look at other builds.There is no need for the leet speak as that is agiasnt the board rules.

He may not have the B'rel but it what i would go with on my kdf geer

@mustafatennick I have not and I would never get beaten by any Klink ship in my escorts infact I would defeat you.I will even tell you this I will defeat you in my B'rel with my kdf geer.btw i have posted in several times as i got a kdf geer and orion sci off.

It is just that my main is Fed Tac and Feds make better escorts.

I never use the battle coak.
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Last edited by age03; 01-19-2013 at 04:35 PM.
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# 16
01-19-2013, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by age03 View Post

Snip snippety snip snip!!


It is just that my main is Fed Tac and Feds make better escorts.

I never use the battle coak.
Whoa simmer down tiger. The things your suggesting are for a Brel, that he doens't have.

Or for an escort, that a bird of prey is not. So I totally see you're trying to help here, it's just a bit off.

And hell yes torpedoes and steallth are important.

Cheers happy flying and stay fiesty!
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Captain
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# 17
01-20-2013, 01:17 AM
How could you beat me

If you can't see me until I'm about 3km off your aft I cloaking with all sorts of hell to rain down

But back on topic feisty fed
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# 18
01-20-2013, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thissler View Post
Whoa simmer down tiger. The things your suggesting are for a Brel, that he doens't have.

Or for an escort, that a bird of prey is not. So I totally see you're trying to help here, it's just a bit off.

And hell yes torpedoes and steallth are important.

Cheers happy flying and stay fiesty!
Yeah.It is his ship anyway.

@mustafatennick

You maybe cloaked but I can still see you all it takes is attack pattern delta.
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