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# 21
01-19-2013, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post

They would be the ships we know today, with the same outlines... only using blockier, bulkier parts, painted TOS white and using the older style nacelles.

Something like these:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/...le&cat=501

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/...rsir21&cat=501
Now THAT would satisfy me! That Akira looks alot like the old FASA Loknar class, designed waaay before th Akira or the NX.

I've always liked this design, as well -

http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/...2/109599_1.jpg


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P.S. I wouldn't mind a Tier 5 Constitution Class, but only if the Tier 5 Constitution Class happens to be the J.J. Abrams version of it, complete with the Movies Ship Interior.
That would surely just be even less lausible than 'prime' universe ships getting in? The Abramsprise never even existed in the prime reality, there's no way that the two universes could somehow meet up and exchange tech! I like the design, but I would be quite annoyed if they tried to include it. Unless it was just an optional skin, and I could choose a TOS or TMP skin if I wanted to.

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That's like saying this looks more advanced than this.
I like that analogy. And old steamtrains are still useful in cold weather, after all. Everything old has it's uses!

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# 22
01-19-2013, 03:31 PM
solution= holo emitters for TOS connie and refit connie
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# 23
01-19-2013, 03:35 PM
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I think trying to shoehorn TOS ships into T5 is not the right solution.

I would prefer new "ship costumes" for current era ships with a TOS aesthetic. Imagine the Ody but instead of all sleek curves it was all hard edges, geometric shapes, painted TOS white and sporting TOS style nacelles?

Or an Akira/HEC made in the TOS style.

They would be the ships we know today, with the same outlines... only using blockier, bulkier parts, painted TOS white and using the older style nacelles.

Something like these:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/...le&cat=501

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/...rsir21&cat=501
ok im not a huge akira fan but that is some truly awsome pics is there a galaxy or sov one?
Captain
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# 24
01-19-2013, 04:10 PM
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solution= holo emitters for TOS connie and refit connie
That's actually a really good idea.
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# 25
01-19-2013, 04:31 PM
Holo emitter is a great idea, but you know that it would only last 60 minutes. Honestly, I can't understand how one can argue the continuous existence of the excelsior class but not the connie?!?

As much as I love this game I also find it extremely limiting in many ways; choice of ships to use regularly is one example. If you look at games like Starfleet Academy, etc... from bygone eras now there was no such limitations; you could play as any faction you so chose; and as for weapon and console slots - it was like Christmas morning all over again. Fire all weapons had an entirely different meaning.

Anyways, just saying I love the Connie and am sad I cannot use it for all my space faring missions. Have you guys heard of Star Trek Renegades? Stars Alan Ruck, and several other famous actors from all over the Trek universe. Their explanation for using the original TOS connie was that the weapons were upgraded making the ship a threat to be dealt with even if hull strength was over forty years old. Neat idea....
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# 26
01-19-2013, 04:47 PM
It might be nice to bring an old ToS DN or BB out of service but no CAs or BCHAs.
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# 27
01-19-2013, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
I think trying to shoehorn TOS ships into T5 is not the right solution.

I would prefer new "ship costumes" for current era ships with a TOS aesthetic. Imagine the Ody but instead of all sleek curves it was all hard edges, geometric shapes, painted TOS white and sporting TOS style nacelles?

Or an Akira/HEC made in the TOS style.

They would be the ships we know today, with the same outlines... only using blockier, bulkier parts, painted TOS white and using the older style nacelles.

Something like these:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/...le&cat=501

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/...rsir21&cat=501
Agreed. There really is nothing to say that sometime between 'Nemesis' and 2409 there couldn't have been a generation of ships that looked retro to modern eyes. Being more high tech doesn't always require something be sleeker, shinier, and with more greebles and glowy bits, than what came before.
Exploration suggestions thread - give it a read

BTW, you'd pronounce it 'Cap'n Manks'

I protest the removal of exploration clusters
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# 28
01-19-2013, 06:35 PM
i think just having the movie enterprise sensor and engines option for the sovereign class would make me a happy girl.
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# 29
01-20-2013, 02:15 AM
As I've said before in multiple "T5 [Insert era-specific ship here] plskthnx" threads, I'm willing to accept a T5, say, Constellation...IF it were a skin for the existing Heavy Cruiser Retrofit, a T5 Starbase ship. It already exists anyway, and several other Fleet-version ships have an exclusive skin (Fleet DSSV, Fleet Star Cruiser, etc.), so in essence it's just adding something that it needs anyway. The Constellation and Cheyenne are similar enough in structure and makeup that a retro/semi-retro skin wouldn't be tough to justify. Hell, there's already a "constellation" skin for the default HC, but it doesn't look much like the Picard Maneuver original.

Also, while a T5 TOS Connie is out of the question (blame CBS), I'd probably accept a T5 "Cruiser" (the Excalibur, Exeter, etc.) version, since there's already a T5 Escort and a T5 Science Vessel. May as well bring it over. And as someone mentioned, the Exeter skin is conspicuously similar to the Abrams version of the Enterprise anyway.

But the T5 Miranda....hmmm. I'd only accept THAT if a 4th, 25th-century-style skin were made for it. It's already kind of a ripoff that the Fleet Excelsior has no 3rd skin (limited to the original + movie skins), so it's adding value to match existing ships.
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# 30
01-20-2013, 06:05 AM
lol you guys make it seem like it would be hard to make future and past ships collide, we venture into the past all the time on this game and maybe into a the future and the easiest way to solve it all is to just simply BLAME Q, whenever something weird happens he is at the heart of it or somewhere in the background.

Personally I think the ship is hidious but theor are a lot that like the TOS ships i mean jebus thos things are ugly...

I like THG ships but no mater how you slice it dice it cut it in quarters a cruiser will always take a back seat to an escort so why not give people what they want and make up some weird Q based fan fiction as to why it's doing this or that.

Heck aren't the Undine infiltrators? Can't they cause a rift in the solidarity of the federation and cause a civil war as to why these old ships are then refitted and retro fitted with the top of the line sensors and weapons and improved armor because they have no choice but to be used. IT would be nice to turn Fed's into two warring factions. One side will side with the federation command and subsequently side with the Undine without knowledge and the other side would see it for what it is and there you have an answer aswell.

Let's see, borg always go back in time, janeway went back in time, tng went back in time spock, so many people go back and forwards through time their should not be a reason why the past and future shouldn't be able to collide in a temporal anomaly right?

But then again all i know about star trek is from a few movies a few episodes and this game so meh.
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