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# 31
01-20-2013, 06:11 AM
Oh and as long as op is listing off obscure old ships I'd like to add the ark royal and Yamato class ships from the star fleet command games, that Yamato class was a beast.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
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# 32
01-20-2013, 06:17 AM
Eh, if TOS-heads think they have it bad, just imagine how diehard original Star Wars fans feel.

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# 33
01-20-2013, 06:23 AM
Or how about just adding a Constitution class holoemitter for say, 1 million latinum (or whatever amount is deemed appropriate)?
(please note that holoemitters only last for a limited amount of use, 1 hour)

Why Cryptic would do it:
1) No new ships need to be made so no work for them
2) New item in latinum store, which many people have been looking for (the first new items in 2+ years were added last month with Winter Event)
3) Contributes to reducing energy credit inflation (since the most common method of latinum is dabo, from EC)
4) Satisfies TOS fans because they get to fly a "T5 Connie"
5) Satisfies everyone else because it's not *really* a T5 Connie
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# 34
01-20-2013, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by shimmerless View Post
Eh, if TOS-heads think they have it bad, just imagine how diehard original Star Wars fans feel.
Maybe we can all get together and lament the misfortune of our birth.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
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# 35
01-20-2013, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by phyrexianhero View Post
Or how about just adding a Constitution class holoemitter for say, 1 million latinum (or whatever amount is deemed appropriate)?
(please note that holoemitters only last for a limited amount of use, 1 hour)

Why Cryptic would do it:
1) No new ships need to be made so no work for them
2) New item in latinum store, which many people have been looking for (the first new items in 2+ years were added last month with Winter Event)
3) Contributes to reducing energy credit inflation (since the most common method of latinum is dabo, from EC)
4) Satisfies TOS fans because they get to fly a "T5 Connie"
5) Satisfies everyone else because it's not *really* a T5 Connie
And then us old schoolers can never have money again. That's a terrible idea.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
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# 36
01-20-2013, 06:37 AM
(Sips tea)

Hmm is that Q I'm sensing over there some where lurking in the background?


Whatever the problem.... blame Q....

Car doesn't start? Q!
Kinds have ADD? Q!

It's just sooo plausible
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# 37
01-20-2013, 08:17 AM
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And then us old schoolers can never have money again. That's a terrible idea.
Perhaps no T5 Connie ever is a better alternative to you?
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# 38
01-20-2013, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by phyrexianhero View Post
5) Satisfies everyone else because it's not *really* a T5 Connie

That seems a little silly. Is that really your motivation to keep TOS ships out of the game? Would it somehow cheapen the quality of the game, or really make you want to quit in the disgust if you saw a larger classic ship flying around?


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Oh and as long as op is listing off obscure old ships I'd like to add the ark royal and Yamato class ships from the star fleet command games, that Yamato class was a beast.
YES! The Yamato. Fond memories

The FASA ship recognition manual has some excellent models, as well, like this one that they call the 'Continent' class

http://www.shipschematics.net/startr..._continent.jpg

That think looks very, very mean, in my eyes.

I'd love to see some more obscure races from SFC/Star Fleet Battles, as well, but I know that's far less than likely. It would be great to have a new sector open up with a story arc about the Lyran/Hydran war, with the Mirak (or Kzinti, if you want to call them that ) also appearing as a new enemy. If you had it is a proxy war, with the Klingons supporting the Lyrans and the Federation supporting the Hydrans, it could have a great TOS cold war feel to it....

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# 39
01-20-2013, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
I think trying to shoehorn TOS ships into T5 is not the right solution.

I would prefer new "ship costumes" for current era ships with a TOS aesthetic. Imagine the Ody but instead of all sleek curves it was all hard edges, geometric shapes, painted TOS white and sporting TOS style nacelles?

Or an Akira/HEC made in the TOS style.

They would be the ships we know today, with the same outlines... only using blockier, bulkier parts, painted TOS white and using the older style nacelles.

Something like these:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/...le&cat=501

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/...rsir21&cat=501
My eyes...they burn!
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# 40
01-20-2013, 08:40 AM
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That seems a little silly. Is that really your motivation to keep TOS ships out of the game? Would it somehow cheapen the quality of the game, or really make you want to quit in the disgust if you saw a larger classic ship flying around?
My opinion on that matter is irrelevant since CBS has ruled out T5 Constitution class ships. Period. My suggestion is an alternative that will allow you the appearance of a Constitution class ship, on a Tier 5 ship of your choice in a way that Cryptic may actually get approval to use it.
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