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# 41
01-18-2013, 03:56 PM
The ship needs two things to make it perfect: Floodlights on the name and registry areas and the impulse engines in the most OBVIOUS area of the ship, that being back of the saucer where the modeller has *clearly* cut into the model to be textured as impulse engines.

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Originally Posted by ozy83 View Post
The ship needs two things to make it perfect: Floodlights on the name and registry areas and the impulse engines in the most OBVIOUS area of the ship, that being back of the saucer where the modeller has *clearly* cut into the model to be textured as impulse engines.
AG

If the Low-rez model is REALLY being used as the canon model for this ship, then why have the name and registry been reversed, top to bottom? The ILM model has the name on top, with the registry number underneath. The in-game model has this reversed, with the strange (and occasional in-game only) registry on top, and name on the bottom.

But... well, I guess since there are no floodlights on the name or registry, I guess nobody noticed.

IF indeed canon is SO important here, then surely, this MUST be fixed.

Either way... please please PLEASE just put floodlights ON! It will make a world of difference!
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# 43
01-20-2013, 11:20 AM
Now now lets be patient, we know they are working on things and we know this thread is being watched so lets give it some time. I'm sure they are swamped with the new things coming and we've already gotten some texture fixes for her, hopefully the registry lights/errors and the impulse engines are on the "to do" list so lets see what the coming days turn up.
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# 44
01-20-2013, 11:31 AM
I think the recess strips on the pylons were intended to be sensor strips just like we see on the galaxy and intrepid classes.

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# 45
01-20-2013, 12:02 PM
Are we talking about the dual strips on the rear ventral/dorsal portion of the pylons to the left and right of the deflector or the recessed strip immediately aft of the ship on the pylons where the impulse engines "shouldn't" be?
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# 46
01-20-2013, 06:04 PM
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Are we talking about the dual strips on the rear ventral/dorsal portion of the pylons to the left and right of the deflector or the recessed strip immediately aft of the ship on the pylons where the impulse engines "shouldn't" be?
I believe we are talking about the latter.

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# 47
01-20-2013, 09:38 PM
Ah, well in that case I would have to agree that that seems most likely given the fact that the fore of the ship already has what appears to be sensor sections and since the deflector is mounted to the aft of the ship the aft leading edge of the pylons would make the most sense.
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# 48
01-21-2013, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kirahitomi View Post
Ah, well in that case I would have to agree that that seems most likely given the fact that the fore of the ship already has what appears to be sensor sections and since the deflector is mounted to the aft of the ship the aft leading edge of the pylons would make the most sense.
I agree. The indents in the rear of the saucer look like they are intended to be the engines, not the thin pylons. Since when in Star Trek is the impulse engines IN the pylons?

(Intrepid doesn't count. The impulse engines are built ON the pylons)

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How does this look (a simple edit in photoshop)


Makes such a difference to the model.
Beautiful.

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# 49
01-21-2013, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 View Post
I agree. The indents in the rear of the saucer look like they are intended to be the engines, not the thin pylons. Since when in Star Trek is the impulse engines IN the pylons?

(Intrepid doesn't count. The impulse engines are built ON the pylons)
I fully agree with you, in fact after reading your post I went and did some research in game and other places and found that with certain exceptions (which I'll list below) all Federation ships have their impulse drives placed on either the saucer section or the neck/hull. The few exceptions that have their impulse engines on the pylons its extremely obvious that they were built as either a secondary drive or as an addition to the pylon.

Lets examine these impulse pylons;
Regent - Obviously meant as a secondary drive system as the primary is located on the saucer section.
Odyssey - Same as Regent
Intrepid - Impulse built into pylons as an addition not integrally.
Intrepid Variants - Primaries on saucer section, secondaries built into pylons as an addition not integrally.
Chimera - Primaries on saucer section, secondaries built integrally.
Vesta (and its variants) - Primaries on saucer section, secondaries built into pylons as an addition not integrally.

So there seems to be a very defining building principle here thats not being followed with the Steamrunner model.

Looking at her original model from the back (even though the texturing is horribly stretched from the rear) you can see NO cutouts or additions to the pylons that would suggest either a primary or secondary impulse drive placement.
http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com...unner_back.jpg

Looking at her from the top once again shows no additions to the modeling or texturing that would suggest impulse drives in the pylons. However from the top we do see clearly in the texturing on the rear of the saucer section on either side of the shuttlebay the fluting into the impulse engines. Which fits squarely into Federation design philosophies.
http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com...unner_top1.jpg

For those, who like me, are extremely big fans of the Steamrunner class check out this complete super high detail 3D model of the her.
http://www.gamegringo.com/gameGringo...unnerModel.jpg
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# 50
01-21-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kirahitomi View Post

For those, who like me, are extremely big fans of the Steamrunner class check out this complete super high detail 3D model of the her.
http://www.gamegringo.com/gameGringo...unnerModel.jpg
Wow, I love where that guy went with the design, giant torpedo launchers ftw!
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