Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 111
01-21-2013, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by adrianm63 View Post
I dont care what the other team sees .If something like lag (from time to time you should play the game from Europe) or ship turning invisible is acceptable for you is not my problem.
Last time I checked, North Wales was in Europe.

ALL PvP in this game is consensual. You know what it may be like, you know it causes you problems, turn your graphics down for the duration of the fight. If you insist on PvPing in a team knowing you'll be unable to see what's going on, you're a liability to your team just by NOT turning them down.
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I played Eve online whre you can have more massive pvp battles than STO and I never complained ....
You imply I don't play EvE... have you SEEN my signature and avatar? Having lived in Catch for a few months when it was owned by En Garde (puppet alliance to -A- at the time) and having to kick Gents, TEST, Goons, Fatal, Razor, and hell knows who else out of our space... yeah, I've been there.

I can't really see Cryptic developing TiDi for STO though, can you?

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I make and sell PCs as a daily job
Yeah, so does everyone else when you cal them out on their PC's capabilities
Captain
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# 112
01-21-2013, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dma1986 View Post
If you insist on PvPing in a team knowing you'll be unable to see what's going on, you're a liability to your team just by NOT turning them down.

I say that things disappear or ships turn invisible and you continue with your prerecorded message.I guess you should add "wanna be troll fanboy " on your sig.



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Yeah, so does everyone else when you cal them out on their PC's capabilities
clearly not you ,you just spam your pre recorded message about how good is the graphic engine when 10000 objects are spawned .

I said the reason I dont pvp against kdf on public queue (the topic of this thread) and your opinion about the reason I dont pvp against kdf is somewhere between not important and trolling.Maybe you know the real reason I dont play against kdf and why Im hidding it ...you probably have a conspiracy in your little pre recorded message.

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Captain
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# 113
01-21-2013, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by adrianm63 View Post
clearly not you ,you just spam your pre recorded message about how good is the graphic engine when 10000 objects are spawned .

I said the reason I dont pvp against kdf on public queue (the topic of this thread) and your opinion about the reason I dont pvp against kdf is somewhere between not important and trolling.Maybe you know the real reason I dont play against kdf and why Im hidding it ...you probably have a conspiracy in your little pre recorded message.
So you no longer PvP against KDF? Fine. How about Fed v Fed? Because a Fed team can drop just as much warp plasma, carrier spam, theta radiation, feeback pulse, energy siphons etc as a KDF team.

If you still PvP against Feds, you're using it as an excuse, not a reason.

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I guess you should add "wanna be troll fanboy " on your sig.
I may add "Feddie tear extractor". Yours are delicious, do you have any more?
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# 114
01-22-2013, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by orondis View Post
One of the main reasons I almost never do FvK as a Fed nowadays is due to how bad Fed pugs are. The KDF standard of pug is just so much higher.

For starters when a RP KDF player picks his fav ship that's closest to how his favourite Trek portrayed Klinks, chances are it's a high damage dealer. Meanwhile when a Fed player picks similarly, chances are it's a cruiser that they'll try to turn into a DPS dealer. End result is a team of heavy damage dealers vs no-threat lumbering targets.

Next is the fact that the KDF pugs in FvK are just more skilled on average. This is hardly surprising as the more experienced Fed PvPers have just been scared off by all the KDF cheese.

I still play FvK a lot, but only on my Klink. To be honest it's rather boring how easy it is.
I would repeat myslef, but I can say: it's exactly the opposite on lower levels. Since I started to level my toon on F2P account, in all the matches I played I was on the loosing side maybe once. In C&H. All Arenas I played in FvK (not many, that's true) ended with Feds either roflstomping Klinks, or, in few cases in something like 15:8-15:12. With Feds winning. Fed players were cooperating, healing itself etc. Even if I met someone who was plain newb they were usually listening to advises and observing the battlefield and what works and what not and adapting.

In Ker'rat it's even worse for Klingon side. I saw two(!) Klinks that were able to hold their own, and no Klinks able to properly team. Contrary to the Feds that were simply doing the Klinks job and ganking opposition. It was quite hilarous to see those Klinks running for their lives with Fed gank on their six blowing them again and again each time they decloaked and tried to attack or scan the Borg.

I also noticed something more: on lower levels in Ker'rat Feds are actually cooperating both in PvP and PvE part. Seeing the Fed ball rolling over Borg, cross healing and concentrating fire (and as one turning against Klinks if they start to do something stupid) was a "WTF, it cannot be true" moment for me.

I just wonder how many of those players will stay in PvP once they hit VA and the land of broken consoles, reputation system etc that they yet have to get. And players that were in this game for years.

Not many I fear.
Captain
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# 115
01-22-2013, 12:36 AM
Hasn't been dead at all from what I've seen past few days. Yeah it can be annoying being constantly ambushed by bop, or fighting off drain builds using all the cheese consoles, but FVF pvp can get really annoying to.They all use cheese against each other just as much, and a lot more sci spam, so Feds still que for FVK regularly. Also they are less likely to run into full premades so that may be another reason.

Players just go with whatever starts the fastest, so many don't want to wait for 8 feds to queue for FvF when they just need 4 or 5 to queue for FvK. KDF is usually already qued up or will queue up fast if they see Feds waiting so it will usually start fast.
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# 116
01-22-2013, 01:33 AM
PvP has been dead for a long time now. They wont be fixing this game for PvP. I think 3 years is obviously long enough to convince players except for the people with physiological withdrawal symptoms that things will not change.

My best advice for anyone trying to PvP for the first time in this game is to " not to " pvp. Try a different game because you will be disappointed. Don't make the same mistake many players did in the past.

I used to be hardcore pvper, ran with many teams, did a lot of matches in my time. I grew tired of the constant problems, false promises, constant politics and etc.

I don't play this game anymore. I play a different MMO and I am really enjoying the pvp in that game. Really well balanced and the company listens to it's consumers so I'm EXTREMELY pleased. I wish I could tell you all the game but it violates the forums rule.

Troll my post, act in denial, I don't care because this is an honest assessment of how I feel about this game. It's a shame that it was never meant to be. Here's to the future to whoever develops a good star trek game because this one is certainly the hell not.

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# 117
01-22-2013, 01:42 AM
No one cares that you're playing another game.

Have fun though, you won't be missed.


Click here and here if you are interested in learning more about PvP.
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# 118
01-22-2013, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by snoge00f View Post
No one cares that you're playing another game.

Have fun though, you won't be missed.
Evul Klingun!

My advice instead is: play PvP! It doesn't matter you're a noob (like me!) or a pro, you can always improve and become better at vaporizing your foe!
I've been tired for a long time by a PvE too easy and boring, it is much more entertaining to deal with real players with a brain!
So, Fed comrades, fight bravely against our deadly enemy, the evul Klinguns!
No battle cloaks, no carriers spam, no toy consoles, no draining dirty tricks can stop us!
K D F - Killing Disadvantaged Feds
K D F - The evul way to play Sto

I salute Adm. Marcus, a real Starfleet hero! Thanks to his courage we Tac Feds now have an awesome Cruiser, the USS Avenger!
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 119
01-22-2013, 10:03 AM
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My best advice for anyone trying to PvP for the first time in this game is to " not to " pvp.
Well, each time I read one of Thissler threads, or discussion about how this from rep, that from mines, of this other DOFF is broken, OP, unbalanced... I kinda understood you. And I fear the day when my RA gets to VA level.

I fear it because I play new character on new, F2P account. I fear because I do not have lots of time to play (some experience, but noobish still). I fear it because I have no will to play PvE outside of what I need to level up (as leveling with PvP is impossible) so I won't grind all those fleet stuff, all the bonuses from reputation system. I can throw a little money for a ship I like or two but... with all what I read about I think it is not worth it.

I fear that, after first few VA Arenas or Ker'rat matches, after being tricced, placated, DOFFed to death I will find this unfunny enough and leave the game. Waiting for season 8 that's for PvP, then season 9 that will be for sure for PvP then...

I love STO space combat engine. I really, really love PvP. Both C&H, Arenas and hunting Klinks that are unused to Feds using them as target practice. But each time I visit PvP forums...

As I said - I understand you. And I hope I wont follow after I reach VA. I really, really hope that flying some cheap ship with no intention to grind outside of hours in Ker'rat and waiting for Arenas will make me fun.

Hope dies last, huh?

Frack, should not write after getting home from work. Got all sentimental
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 120
01-23-2013, 07:18 AM
Am I the only one noticing tac klingons being able to tank better than most eng fed tanks nowadays (Or on the same level)? I figure it has to do with the elite shields from the starbase, but if you want to talk about a killer of pvp. It has to do with the uselessness of the support classes when any class can do almost the same as the other with the right gear and boff layout.

If anything is making pvp unfun, it's that crap. (For a engineer anyway )

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