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# 11
01-22-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by thegrimcorsair View Post
It's the Dominion's galaxy, we're just visiting it.

My overall thoughts on this lockbox can be summed up as follows:

Season 7: Where power stopped creepin' and started haulin' ***.


sad thing is.... when/if they deicde to release the gamma quadrant..... they wont have any ships to release with it.
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Originally Posted by mancom View Post
Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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# 12
01-22-2013, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
sad thing is.... when/if they deicde to release the gamma quadrant..... they wont have any ships to release with it.
They'll have plenty of ships to fly as, by that point, the KDF, Federation, and Romulans will have all been swallowed up by the maw of some LSD-nightmare induced Jem'hadar/Vorta hybrid eldritch abomination the size of a planet.
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# 13
01-22-2013, 02:30 PM
..Whut? Feds get a bioneural nuke? Has cryptic read their own description for that item - No Stafleet officer would ever equip that thing as its sentient AI tortured and molded into a 'living' weapon! (Not that it'll stop me from using it a few weeks down the line when the gambling addicts try to recoup their losses, but they go on about retaining canon so much..)

As to the rest..ho hum -new ships that only the lockbox-addicted will get, yet another nail in the coffin of pvp and using anything else but escorts in pve new doffs that'll likely have a sting in the tail as bad as snb doffs, a god-awful looking pet, a rediculously overpriced upgrade package for the jem set (going by th 'upgrade' for the tholian cystal set), more mirror escorts for escorts online (klinks meanwhile get a carrier which has its pros and cons) and hilariously pointless dilithium mining claims (woo...yet more surplus dil to sit unrefined as we have a refining cap!)

...It makes me glad I've never spent a penny in or on this game, I'll just get my prizes at a 100% chance rate off the exchange and leave the lockbox bs to those with more money than sense
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# 14
01-22-2013, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
True. But that still leaves the bad-ass carrier on the team with the team attack pattern aimed at you. One which a well trained Jem'Hadar Attack Ship pilot will gladly exploit on the carrier's behalf
Well, if it's two ships working together against me, I'm in trouble either way.

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Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
or you can take the carrier and (if you have a bug ship) just call in waves of your own jem ships to attack.
I'll have to see if the pet ships are going to be any good offensive-wise. Considering how ineffective the Peregrin, Scorpion, and KDF fighters are, I'm betting they will be similarly as crappy.

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Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
i can imagine a jem themed lobi console/weapon set for either space or an "upgrade" to the jem ground like the tholian ground freezy shotgun
I'm beginning to wonder if they are going to skip the consoles this time around in favor of the upgrade.

Now that I think about it, there's only the Ferengi and Temporal lock boxes that had consoles via the lobi store, no? Tholians got the ground set upgrade. Cardassians had? Seems like every other lockbox has a console set.
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# 15
01-22-2013, 02:35 PM
oh god the humanity, 1 lock box 3 carriers. the mirror kdf carrier is 1 thing, but really? both dominion ships needed hangers? STUPID. no justification for it, and a huge amount of additional spam to deal with

and the phsed polaron, WTF? that already exists, and its polaron with a tetryon proc. dont they get it? phaser and polaron is the end game as far as weapons go, a combination of those 2 is the best, there is no other weapon type combo beter. what, are they going to retroactively modify the phased polaron from the featured episodes so they are polaron/phaser too? i just hope thats a typeO

the jem set getting upgraded, that shield has the potential to out do maco. so that will be interesting to see. less plasma weapon immunity at least

the mirror escorts were a given, and i think a MVAM console with an ens eng might be a nice combo. the mirror patrol is completely pointless though with the fleet patrol having a universal ens, and being better in every other way. the mirror carrier will proboly have the catbox LTC sci and LT tac station setup.


heres a good a place as any, ship speculation

Jem?Hadar heavy escort

Hull Strength: 36,000
Shield Modifier: 1
Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft
Device Slots: 3
COM tac
LTC eng
LT tac
LTsci
ENS uni
Console: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science
Base Turn Rate: ~13 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.18
+10 Power to Weapons; +5 Power to Engines
Can Load Cannons
1 hanger

i suspect its basically a breen ship with a LTC eng, but its also more like i much better armatige, making it sort of a joke by comparison, with the stupid hanger it has.


Jem?Hadar Dreadnought Carrier

Hull Strength: 42,000
Shield Modifier: 1.2
Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft
Device Slots: 3
COM tac
LTC eng
LTC sci
LT uni
Console: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science
Base Turn Rate: 7 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.15
+5 Power to Weapons; +10 Power to auxilery
Can Load Cannons
2 hanger

i can only hope these ships are more pve toys like the breen ship is, rather then the new best pvp escort and pvp carrier. if the dread is tactical focused, i dont see how it could be much of a pvp ship. 4/4 weapons and 7 turn would be a lot for such a thing though
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# 16
01-22-2013, 02:44 PM
Oh great! More spam and a universal console that grants APO to the entire premade group! Just what this game needs... NOT
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!

PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
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Posts: 1,416
# 17
01-22-2013, 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
oh god the humanity, 1 lock box 3 carriers. the mirror kdf carrier is 1 thing, but really? both dominion ships needed hangers? STUPID. no justification for it, and a huge amount of additional spam to deal with

and the phsed polaron, WTF? that already exists, and its polaron with a tetryon proc. dont they get it? phaser and polaron is the end game as far as weapons go, a combination of those 2 is the best, there is no other weapon type combo beter. what, are they going to retroactively modify the phased polaron from the featured episodes so they are polaron/phaser too? i just hope thats a typeO

the jem set getting upgraded, that shield has the potential to out do maco. so that will be interesting to see. less plasma weapon immunity at least

the mirror escorts were a given, and i think a MVAM console with an ens eng might be a nice combo. the mirror patrol is completely pointless though with the fleet patrol having a universal ens, and being better in every other way. the mirror carrier will proboly have the catbox LTC sci and LT tac station setup.


heres a good a place as any, ship speculation

Jem?Hadar heavy escort

Hull Strength: 36,000
Shield Modifier: 1
Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft
Device Slots: 3
COM tac
LTC eng
LT tac
LTsci
ENS uni
Console: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science
Base Turn Rate: ~13 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.18
+10 Power to Weapons; +5 Power to Engines
Can Load Cannons
1 hanger

i suspect its basically a breen ship with a LTC eng, but its also more like i much better armatige, making it sort of a joke by comparison, with the stupid hanger it has.


Jem?Hadar Dreadnought Carrier

Hull Strength: 42,000
Shield Modifier: 1.2
Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft
Device Slots: 3
COM tac
LTC eng
LTC sci
LT uni
Console: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science
Base Turn Rate: 7 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.15
+5 Power to Weapons; +10 Power to auxilery
Can Load Cannons
2 hanger

i can only hope these ships are more pve toys like the breen ship is, rather then the new best pvp escort and pvp carrier. if the dread is tactical focused, i dont see how it could be much of a pvp ship. 4/4 weapons and 7 turn would be a lot for such a thing though

i bet the carrier will have at least a turn rate of 10 for it to be "tactical" focused.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mancom View Post
Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
Do you even Science Bro?
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# 18
01-22-2013, 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
i bet the carrier will have at least a turn rate of 10 for it to be "tactical" focused.
and i bet the heavy escort will have 18 turn
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Posts: 251
# 19
01-22-2013, 02:57 PM
The Jemmy carriers look awesome....but there's too much spam.

TOO MUCH SPAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then again, all they are is just more ships to blow up. I am waiting to hear, "Jemmy Dreadnought/Heavy Escort is Garbage" in the forums from some noob who can't use the damn thing
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Posts: 272
# 20
01-22-2013, 02:59 PM
it would be nice if we could buy lobi cyrstals on the cstore and sell lock boxes to the lobi store for 1 or 2 crystals per lock box or lobi items drectly from the cstore
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