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Ensign
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 12
# 101
01-22-2013, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
I think a fleet Exeter (or whichever is the modern looking one) would be a fine way to get in a Connie at endgame.... so long as the connie fans were willing to bend a little. Sadly I think the cries for a full TOS T5 connie would not stop.



Theres another loop-hole folks might want to consider.

A MIRROR T5-connie/exeter.

(WHICH IS ALREADY......ALREADY IN GAME)

http://www.stowiki.org/I.S.S._Exeter

I'm not sure what tier it is.

If your high level, Go find and fight this ship, My opinion from what it shoots......its a little more then tier 2.

I might try finding it today, refresh my memory a bit.
Ensign
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1
# 102 Rpg
01-22-2013, 09:44 PM
Personally, I don't see the big deal of finding TOS equivalents for T5. Frankly, I'd think that the creative team would work hard to make this happen for 2 reasons. 1) It's something new to put in the C-Store; 2) The RPG in MMORPG is for role playing game--people want to enjoy and get creative in the fantasy universes that they enjoy. Providing a TOS era T5 ship would make a substantial part of the community happier and allow the developers, designers, and artists some new creative challenges.
Ensign
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 16
# 103
01-24-2013, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by utilyan View Post
Theres another loop-hole folks might want to consider.

A MIRROR T5-connie/exeter.

(WHICH IS ALREADY......ALREADY IN GAME)

http://www.stowiki.org/I.S.S._Exeter

I'm not sure what tier it is.

If your high level, Go find and fight this ship, My opinion from what it shoots......its a little more then tier 2.

I might try finding it today, refresh my memory a bit.

Well if it had this loadout:

http://www.stowiki.org/Terran_Cruiser#Unnamed

And I could play with the aesthetics.....and I'd rather not have the I.S.S. prefix, but I might concede on that point....

Then that would certainly be an option
Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 549
# 104
01-24-2013, 07:38 AM
I.S.S. prefix is optional. You have to physically choose that option when renaming your ship upon purchase/opening of the lockbox.

I do think it is odd that, say, blue phasers from the actual TOS connie are upgradable (albeit up until Tier 4 I believe) but a ship purchased directly from the c-store for good money is not. I purchased the TOS Connie and the Exeter PRIOR to my understanding how the game actually worked in its entirety (never played an MMO until STO). I do NOT regret the decision(s) of course because I enjoyed the product. However, like a real plastic model purchased from a hobby shop, both of these ships sit unused (in the c-store waiting to be claimed again) now waiting for the day I decide to start a new Fed character and in doing so, probably hoping I take my sweet time to play said carahacter otherwise they will become obsolete too quickly as I Tier up.

I wonder how nice the Enterprise C will be? Looks like it may be as sluggish as the Galaxy unfortunately... but that is speculation.
"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa (2006)
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 105
01-24-2013, 08:08 AM
Can I just say, Kelvin-type, anyone? I know it's only in the 2009 movie, but it was around before the whole time shenanigans thing began, so it's ST canon!
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 542
# 106
01-24-2013, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by adventurerflicky View Post
Can I just say, Kelvin-type, anyone? I know it's only in the 2009 movie, but it was around before the whole time shenanigans thing began, so it's ST canon!
STO can't have ships from the recent films. They belong to Paramount, not CBS... or something like that.
Career Officer
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Posts: 549
# 107
01-24-2013, 08:20 AM
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STO can't have ships from the recent films. They belong to Paramount, not CBS... or something like that.
True, but if you look at past games including ST Command, etc... there were single nacelle ships ingame! Thus, there is no reason why there wouldn't be now, even in the 25th century. Not every ship was built specifically for Starfleet after all.

That god awful looking Tuffi, Toothy, whatever cargo ship for instance could be replaced or have along side of it other variants of starships.

It aslo just occurred to me too that Drozana station was originally from Kirk's period yet still exists. So why not TOS era ships to the same effect, modified of course for optimal use.

Stirring the Pot....
"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa (2006)
Captain
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# 108
01-24-2013, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hravik View Post
False. The exact line was 'Your engagements have given us valuable time. We've mobilized a fleet of 40 starships at Wolf 359, and that's just for starters. The Klingons are sending warships, hell, we've even thought of opening communications with the Romulans'

Sounds pretty desperate to me if they're willing to go to the Romulans for help.
He still does not mention bringing any mothballed or recruit ships, which was the main point.
But I did miss some details, and yet I think I can still make a claim for the general underestimation like attitude. The admiral calls the upcoming battle a party, and says they only thought about inviting romulans, instead of inviting them like they should have. Most importantly, prior to trying the deflector weapon riker suggests that the admiral send every possible ship, after the engagement he does, but at that moment the admiral seems apathetic.

Despite his promise to send everything, three ships remain at mars to be destroyed by one disrupter bolt each. His statement was empty, and some more people might have survived if it wasn't. I ask again why fully functional combat ships were not sent while a supposed museum ship was?

Finally, I ask if you can provide a single confirmed case of museum ships or cadets being purposely sent into combat. If you cannot, I think we can finally put this case to rest.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3
# 109
01-24-2013, 09:13 AM
If a warp core, weapons and shield arrays can be wedged in to a defiant sized ship
Length: 119.5 meters
Surely a refit constitution class
Length: 304 meters
can be up graded with hull plating and larger version of the defiant class's warp core,Along with improvements in structural integrity fields and other tech.
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 802
# 110
01-24-2013, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cidstorm View Post
He still does not mention bringing any mothballed or recruit ships, which was the main point.
Please point me to the line, or scene where the Admiral describes every ship type, name, and disposition of every ship in the fleet? Your main point was we knew exactly where these ships came from, which is patently false.


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Originally Posted by cidstorm View Post
Despite his promise to send everything, three ships remain at mars to be destroyed by one disrupter bolt each. His statement was empty, and some more people might have survived if it wasn't. I ask again why fully functional combat ships were not sent while a supposed museum ship was?
Single man fighters that we already know exist from Crusher's academy experience

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Finally, I ask if you can provide a single confirmed case of museum ships or cadets being purposely sent into combat. If you cannot, I think we can finally put this case to rest.
Paradise Lost, DS9 S4E12 - SISKO: Three hours later Starfleet Command issued an order assigning the entire Corps of Cadets to field duty.

Is every cadet at the Academy enough for you? You can argue they didn't actually fight, but at this time they were fully expecting a full scale invasion at any time.
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Last edited by hravik; 01-24-2013 at 09:25 AM.
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