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# 11
01-24-2013, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
Green = Covert Operative
Blue = Superior Covert Operative

Crit Percentages -------- Boff Loadout

15.2 ------- 1 Green, 2 Blue
12.7 ------- 2 Blue
15.2 ------- 1 Green 1 Blue
12.7 ------- 1 Blue
8.9 ------ Zero Boffs
Thanks for doing this comprehensive investigation BTW. If this were reddit, you'd have one more karma.
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# 12
01-24-2013, 02:34 PM
It's odd that, as of the January 17th patch notes, Covert Operative was working as intended (ie, stacking).

New patch comes out and it no longer stacks, and they didn't put any thing in the patch notes that it was fixed.

So, was it working as intended as of January 17th or not?
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# 13
01-24-2013, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shookyang View Post
It's odd that, as of the January 17th patch notes, Covert Operative was working as intended (ie, stacking).

New patch comes out and it no longer stacks, and they didn't put any thing in the patch notes that it was fixed.

So, was it working as intended as of January 17th or not?
In a word, no. Operative was causing all space powers to cooldown 10-15% faster (depending on trait quality) instead of just cloak powers.

They fixed that bug today, but in the process broke another aspect of the trait (the stacking). As I mentioned earlier, my money is on yet another careless error by someone at Cryptic as they rushed to do something without taking the time to actually bother and test their work.
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# 14
01-24-2013, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by eisenw0lf View Post
You know, some people just like to have a Romulan bridge crew for their Romulan character. It's not all about PvP in this game
i dont care what race the ass you have in your bridge seat is. the traits specifically are hilariously overpowered. the scale at which they add crit is 4 times what something like the borg console adds, and that they were allowed to stack, its explosive power creep.
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# 15
01-24-2013, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
i dont care what race the ass you have in your bridge seat is. the traits specifically are hilariously overpowered. the scale at which they add crit is 4 times what something like the borg console adds, and that they were allowed to stack, its explosive power creep.
Didn't I already say so? Again, their crit bonuses are completely overpowered and should be heavily nerfed or better completely erased. However, it is silly to basically question their very existence like you did, by saying 'these boffs should not even exist '.
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# 16
01-24-2013, 03:08 PM
It's powerful, but I wouldn't say it's overpowered.

Only, from what I can tell, the uncommon and rare Tactical Officers have it. At best, most escorts and everything else can get one or two of these officers. The only ones that can get more than this are Tactical Escort Retrofits (Fleet and non-Fleet) and Fleet Advanced Escort. Frankly, considering that an all-cannon escort has a useless 3rd ensign tactical slot, I think this is a fair trade off.

Other ships with Universal officers slots can make use of this as well, but at a pretty steep cost. For instance, a Jem'Hadar could potentially have 4 tactical officers. But at the cost of only having an engineer for heals and having a ton of tactical abilities that would be pointless to slot. Even having 3 tactical boffs would stunt it's ability to use defensive/heal abilities that make it such a pain in the butt that it is.

Some BoPs with universal slots can also make use of having multiple tactical boffs, but, again, at the cost of having any healing abilities and a bunch of useless tactical abilities. My B'rel Retrofit only has 4 universal slots. I could have 4 tactical officers, but then I wouldn't be able to heal. With no shields when I'm cloaked, that could be a problem.
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# 17
01-24-2013, 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
i hope this is intentional. these boffs should not even exist
Well I hope theyll give me my dilithium and fleet credits back or take it from you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
i dont care what race the ass you have in your bridge seat is. the traits specifically are hilariously overpowered. the scale at which they add crit is 4 times what something like the borg console adds, and that they were allowed to stack, its explosive power creep.

20,000 dilithium and billions and billions of fleet credits are even more explosive.

Last edited by adrianm63; 01-24-2013 at 07:18 PM.
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# 18
01-24-2013, 07:14 PM
Wow so either this is a mistake or its permanent... Rather they let it go back the way it was. Otherwise I just wasted 160k fleet credit and 40k dil on two boffs.

Have 3 in all because of fleet mvam, but didn't expect them to make having more than 1 completely useless!
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# 19
01-25-2013, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by deusemperor View Post
Wow so either this is a mistake or its permanent... Rather they let it go back the way it was. Otherwise I just wasted 160k fleet credit and 40k dil on two boffs.

Have 3 in all because of fleet mvam, but didn't expect them to make having more than 1 completely useless!
Yea, this is very annoying. I opened a bug report and sent a ticket to a GM.

Ninja nerfing is not cool.

Thx
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# 20
01-25-2013, 09:14 AM
Cryptic, how much do you care about your reputation? I won't go over the chronology of events that have happened thus far just to get a working rom boff, but suffice it to say, I REALLY cannot believe what I am witnessing.

Please have your QA staff test not only the bug being fixed, but all related functions of the item to ensure that something else was not broken in the process!!!!!!

If the item is supposed to stack, then please make sure it stacks!
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