Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 1 Good ship for 2k zen
01-25-2013, 08:06 PM
I was looking at the defiant retrofit kinda iffy to buy it and figured I should come ask you people I already have intrepid retrofit and gal x ( worst purchase ever ). Any suggestions?
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 2
01-25-2013, 08:17 PM
The Defiant retrofit is a pretty cool ship. Ability to cloak can come in handy. Also if you are in a fleet with tier 3 shipyard, you can get the fleet version for 1 fleet module (another 500 Zen)


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Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 3
01-25-2013, 08:21 PM
Is defiant battle cloak or regular cloak?
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 4
01-25-2013, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by imafrendly View Post
Is defiant battle cloak or regular cloak?
It has a normal cloak. It is also a console that you have to use in order to cloak, unlike KDF ships.

If you do get a Fleet Defiant, you can put the cloak on that console.

Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 5
01-25-2013, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mimey2 View Post
It has a normal cloak. It is also a console that you have to use in order to cloak, unlike KDF ships.

If you do get a Fleet Defiant, you can put the cloak on that console.
I have the galexy x it h a clock also, if I buy the regular defiant can I put a cloak on it?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 6
01-25-2013, 09:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imafrendly View Post
I have the galexy x it h a clock also, if I buy the regular defiant can I put a cloak on it?
I think you can actually put the cloak from the Gal-X onto a Fleet Defiant.

The keyword there is think, obviously. As far as I know, though, they're pretty much the same console.

Last time I checked, Fleet Ship modules cost around 5 million EC on the Exchange, so you don't have to blow all your Zen on them if you have tons of EC.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 157
# 7
01-26-2013, 03:25 AM
1. Yes, the Dreadnaught and Defiant Retrofit's cloak console are one in the same. They can both be seamlessly transferred to either ship and the Fleet variant of the Defiant.

2. I own a Defiant Retrofit. It's a good ship. I got a couple of videos up on YouTube doing some STF's with it. I normally use my Armitage nowadays, the extra fighter pets are a plus. Also, I've NEVER seen a Federation ship have the Bridge Officer layout of the Defiant Retrofit at all. The only OTHER ship is the Klingon Qin Heavy Raptor.

3. It's cheaper buying a fleet module (1) from the Exchange and no money involved to get a Fleet variant Defiant. The Fleet variant does not come with a cloaking console.

4. The cloak is a normal NON-Battle cloak. It can only cloak if you're out of combat. It's good if you wanna get a jump on someone. Other than that, it's sort of useless.

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Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 8
01-26-2013, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by krayuskorianis View Post
3. It's cheaper buying a fleet module (1) from the Exchange and no money involved to get a Fleet variant Defiant. The Fleet variant does not come with a cloaking console.
Don't forget, that if you go this route - to set the quality.

A search for a Fleet Ship Module without setting the quality to VR can return prices in the 9-10m+ range. Set the quality, and you'll be looking at 4.5ish. It's one of the items on the Exchange that people take advantage of others with because of the way the search works...

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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 9
01-26-2013, 07:44 AM
I personally prefer the patrol escort (I have both). It has a lot more survivability -- 4x the crew (which helps all Team abilities), the ensign slot is Engineering (a third tac slot is kind of wasted), more hull.

It doesn't LOOK so much more, but I find in STFs my defiant dies a lot when I can't manage aggro (and, of course, none of the cruisers are equipped to attract it), patrol escort does much better.


In PvP, I suppose cloak and a little more maneuverability is nice, but... eh.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 10
01-26-2013, 08:38 AM
Mirror Patrol Escort would be a good choice. It has a Prometheus (canon) hull configuration, supports MVAM and has the tankiness of the ugly patrol escort.
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