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# 1 Leadership is OP
01-25-2013, 03:35 PM
Having 5 Human Boff is extremely overpowered. Having tested it, it has overshadowed the efficient trait and possibly even better than the new Romulan crit chance boffs. These Boffs stack linearly and provide a +100 to Starship Subsystem Repair when having 5 equipped. This renders several science abilities useless such as target subsystem and viral matrix. Viral matrix is reduced from a 14 second disable to a 3 second disable, practically negligible. Don't forget that leadership also provides another bonus, starship hull regeneration. This also gains a 100% starship hull regeneration when stacking 5 of them and each one gains +20% to hull regeneration. This would be comparable to the Assimilated Borg set 2-piece proc that gives a large hull regeneration except that there is no duration attached to the leadership trait. This would negate any damage that utilizes damage over time such as plasma torpedo/energy, hargh'peng torpedo, eject warp plasma, etc. Please support this thread to get this trait revised!
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# 2
01-26-2013, 01:13 AM
How about... no.
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# 3
01-26-2013, 02:05 AM
I'm with heretic on this one.

Quit ur crying and go back to pvp lol.
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# 4
01-26-2013, 02:52 AM
This might not be true, but it is highly related to the flawed nature of forced racial traits.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh....php?t=1313421
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
Lt. Commander
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# 5
01-26-2013, 05:48 AM
Don't worry. They are looking at it. And other racial traits.
Captain
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# 6
01-26-2013, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by vesolc View Post
Don't worry. They are looking at it. And other racial traits.
True, since 2010. It took them 3 years to fix leadership so it actually works... so yeah, don't worry..they are looking at it...
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# 7
01-26-2013, 07:08 AM
Leadership is working now? When did that happen?!
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# 8
01-26-2013, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
True, since 2010. It took them 3 years to fix leadership so it actually works... so yeah, don't worry..they are looking at it...
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Originally Posted by savingj View Post
Having 5 Human Boff is extremely overpowered. Having tested it, it has overshadowed the efficient trait and possibly even better than the new Romulan crit chance boffs. These Boffs stack linearly and provide a +100 to Starship Subsystem Repair when having 5 equipped. This renders several science abilities useless such as target subsystem and viral matrix. Viral matrix is reduced from a 14 second disable to a 3 second disable, practically negligible. Don't forget that leadership also provides another bonus, starship hull regeneration. This also gains a 100% starship hull regeneration when stacking 5 of them and each one gains +20% to hull regeneration. This would be comparable to the Assimilated Borg set 2-piece proc that gives a large hull regeneration except that there is no duration attached to the leadership trait. This would negate any damage that utilizes damage over time such as plasma torpedo/energy, hargh'peng torpedo, eject warp plasma, etc. Please support this thread to get this trait revised!
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This might not be true, but it is highly related to the flawed nature of forced racial traits.
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# 9
01-26-2013, 09:46 AM
"its working as intended"
"it wasn't working properly, now it is working properly"
"it needed to be rebalanced"
"we are looking into it"

A litany of curses against any science-related ability in the game. Yes leadership is OP - stacking a bunch of BOffs shouldn't give you near-immunity against a commander level science ability. Could you imagine the rage if you could stack 5 BOff's and get 90% passive resistance to Cannon: Rapid Fire? That's basically what this is, but since it's not the "cool" class that gets affected, no one cares.

I have to ask, why do all DPS related player skills like "Starship Weapons Training" or "Starship Energy Weapons" sit at tiers 1 and 2, and all damage resistance abilities like "Starship Hull Plating" and "Starship Armor Reinforcements" sit at tiers 4 and 5?

Yet a science disable skill like "Subspace Decompiler" sits at tier 5, and its counter "Subsystem Repair" sits at tier 2?

IMO all science counters need to be moves to tiers 4 and 5 so people have to spend more character points to resist science abilities. Subspace Decompiler needs to be moved to tier 2. Also remove the subsystem repair buff from the Leadership trait.
Career Officer
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# 10 Not Op In The Slightest
01-26-2013, 12:43 PM
It's not op in the slightest. Tested it myself as well. How else do you expect to get more immunity other than the skill tree? And we all know the skill tree is bugged when it comes to power insulators. I suppose you'll whine about that too when it gets fixed to "working as intended"

Want some cheese?

Science has been out of balance for a while. Nice to see it put in its place again.

And, no, there is nothing wrong with leadership. You can still kill your enemy. It just might take a little more skill and one or two seconds more.

Get over it....

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