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# 11
01-26-2013, 03:49 AM
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All that and then add the fact they whine about nerfing everything because they can't get that easy kill no more with all the cool stuff Cryptic has added because they claim its "OP" in PvP when in reality, its not. They just don't want to change their tactics and adapt to the ever evolving state of the game. They want to remain in the past...
lol.

PvEers like you have never adapted to anything in the game in their lives.

I'd love for Cryptic to add PvP mechanics to the PvE part of the game, just to see PvEers like you cry about how unfair it is to learn how to play.

And yes, PvPers are very helpful and friendly compared to most.

You only need to not act like a douchenozzle, and be willing to learn.


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# 12
01-26-2013, 05:43 AM
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All that and then add the fact they whine about nerfing everything because they can't get that easy kill no more with all the cool stuff Cryptic has added because they claim its "OP" in PvP when in reality, its not. They just don't want to change their tactics and adapt to the ever evolving state of the game. They want to remain in the past...

Nah you aren't missing much in PvP. Same old pre-mades, same old cheese and whine. They say they are helpful and want to teach you, but really, don't waste your time. They just want to add more fuel to the fire with Cryptic is all...
Have you considered the PVP bootcamp? It's great for all levels of gameplay, even levels as basic as you.
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# 13
01-26-2013, 06:20 AM
Premades stomping PUGs? That's going to happen in pretty much any game. Cryptic has not created any non-team queue mechanic. There are PUGmades formed in OPvP, which imho offer more than you'd get out of a TradePUG.

Insults? Doesn't matter if it's PvP or PvE, there are going to be players that fling insults...so this is nothing specific to PvP by any means.

Console Spam? Cheese...while it's what you're likely to find in random queues and Ker'rat (whether from Premades or PUGs) - there are those that are against the cheesefest. Cheese-free events are being scheduled more and more. Going back to the insults thing, it can definitely get nasty between the two crowds.

Escorts? Well, this is Star Trek Online - so the ship type seen the least in over 40 years of Star Trek is obviously the main player.../cough.

Festering Pit of Hate? Well, outside some of those Cheese vs. No Cheese discussions - the main hate comes from PvE players that need the crutch of various broken mechanics. They despise that by it's very nature, PvP allows for feedback and testing on such mechanics. NPCs aren't going to create support tickets if something does not appear to be working...and well, there are far too many PvE players that would rather exploit something than report it as well. There are also far too many PvP players that would rather their fellows not report things either, but it's a little more difficult there - because the NPCs can't (not a case of won't) - and players don't want that crap used against them, so they're unlikely not to do so. Doesn't mean some won't use it while it's out there. Course, that gets back to the Cheese arguments.

TLDR for that last mini-wall of text? Festering Pit of Hate? People are people. /shrug


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# 14
01-26-2013, 07:32 AM
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All that and then add the fact they whine about nerfing everything because they can't get that easy kill no more with all the cool stuff Cryptic has added because they claim its "OP" in PvP when in reality, its not. They just don't want to change their tactics and adapt to the ever evolving state of the game. They want to remain in the past...

Nah you aren't missing much in PvP. Same old pre-mades, same old cheese and whine. They say they are helpful and want to teach you, but really, don't waste your time. They just want to add more fuel to the fire with Cryptic is all...
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# 15
01-26-2013, 07:44 AM
What do you folks mean by "console spam"?
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# 16
01-26-2013, 07:47 AM
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PvEers like you have never adapted to anything in the game in their lives.
that one made me laugh ...since the first QQ is ALWAYS coming from organized pvp when there is something new or "OP"...people crying over and over about broken or unbalanced skills....
calling it cheese...
but using the so called cheese as well^^

and if you're beating the **** out of some orgpvp guys in an arena match.......
10 seconds after the match you'll see a big QQ fest incomin in orgpvp...

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# 17
01-26-2013, 07:48 AM
It's means a wise use of consoles to improve the PvP experience!
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# 18
01-26-2013, 07:52 AM
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that one made me laugh ...since the first QQ is ALWAYS coming from organized pvp when there is something new or "OP"...people crying over and over about broken or unbalanced skills....
calling it cheese...
but using the so called cheese as well^^

and if you're beating the **** out of some orgpvp guys in an arena match.......
10 seconds after the match you'll see a big QQ fest incomin in orgpvp...

always the best entertainment
Butthurted in Arena?
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# 19
01-26-2013, 08:07 AM
But who are the smart people? The PvEers never complaining because they fight against dumb targets or the PvPers who always try to preserve a little bit of gameplay balance because they fight against real players?
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# 20
01-26-2013, 08:10 AM
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But who are the smart people? The PvEers never complaining because they fight against dumb targets or the PvPers who always try to preserve a little bit of gameplay balance because they fight against real players?
Thing is...that's a stereotype.

Sure, there are definitely the PvE players that are going to keep quiet. There are also the PvE players that will be honest about it and say something.

Likewise, there are definitely the PvP players that are going to speak up. There are also the PvP players that will be dishonest about it and say nothing.

It has little to do with whether the person PvE's or PvP's... it's the person.


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