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# 71
01-30-2013, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by odyssey47 View Post
Adjusted for advances in technology, I think the Excelsior and Ambassador were probably intended to be more tactically oriented than the Galaxy, which was more outfitted for exploration. So a modern retrofit of the aforementioned ships outgunning a Galaxy actually makes sense. Pay attention to your TNG episodes, and you'll see that the Galaxy was quite pathetic in combat. So if anything, Cryptic is following canon.

lmao!!

What a load of BS.
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# 72
01-30-2013, 01:42 PM
What bugs me more than anything is this:

The Kamarag has:
+ 3.5 turn (or 150% the turn rate)
Can Mount Dual Cannons
A fracking Cloak
+5 weapon power and +5 Engine Power

all at the cost of 4,500 hull (oh noes!), -5 Shield Power, -5 Aux Power

I'd give up that much hull and power JUST for the +3.5 turn rate, let alone the ability to mount cannons and CLOAK!

People should never, ever complain about the feds getting anything, when the what the KDF gets is almost always superior (especially when it comes to cruiser stats)
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If the KDF can get a Fleet D7 (That can be upgraded to a T5-U), the Feds should have a Fleet Exeter.
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# 73
01-30-2013, 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonathanlonehawk View Post
What bugs me more than anything is this:

The Kamarag has:
+ 3.5 turn (or 150% the turn rate)
Can Mount Dual Cannons
A fracking Cloak
+5 weapon power and +5 Engine Power

all at the cost of 4,500 hull (oh noes!), -5 Shield Power, -5 Aux Power

I'd give up that much hull and power JUST for the +3.5 turn rate, let alone the ability to mount cannons and CLOAK!

People should never, ever complain about the feds getting anything, when the what the KDF gets is almost always superior (especially when it comes to cruiser stats)
You have to understand. Cryptic follows some weird stat budgets on ships. For example turn rate is severely underestimated. I guess its because in PvE NPCs barely move.
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 80
# 74
01-30-2013, 01:46 PM
so T3 ships are permanent while T5 are limited time?

T5: Availability: Mission Reward (Limited Time)

T3: Availability: Mission Reward

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Lt. Commander
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Posts: 124
# 75
01-30-2013, 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikkipaden View Post
so T3 ships are permanent while T5 are limited time?

T5: Availability: Mission Reward (Limited Time)

T3: Availability: Mission Reward
That's correct. After February 14 expect the T5 ship to show up in the C-store with a console.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 671
# 76
01-30-2013, 01:49 PM
Can we get something other than a cruiser next year?

Not against free ships, great for people who love cruisers...

But, this game does have Science and Escort fans.....
I'll stop kicking that horse when the bugs fixed. Until then as a paying consumer, I will voice my opinion.
Career Officer
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Posts: 298
# 77
01-30-2013, 01:49 PM
The Galaxy-R, and like wise the Galaxy-X have a Turn rate of 6, 39K hull, and 1000 crew.

The Excelsior refit has a turn rate of 8, 39K hull, and 750 Crew.

The Ambassador has a Turn rate of 7, 39.5K hull, and 700 crew.

The Assault Cruiser refit has a Turn Rate of 7, 39K hull, and 800 Crew.

The only real difference between the Ambassador and the Excelsior is the flip flopped Tac / Sci BOFF stations. The Galaxy R/X has a Lt Comm Eng Station, and the Assault Cruiser Refit has a universal Lt Station.

One other really odd part about this, is that the Ambassador and the Excelsior are RA level ships, the others are VA rank. If you compare them with the Oddy Command Cruiser a VA level cruiser, it's rather sad.

Outside of that i's really just differences in special consoles they have, but most of them can be swapped around.

Last edited by drudgy; 01-30-2013 at 02:08 PM.
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# 78
01-30-2013, 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesdax View Post
The Galaxy is a recent retrofit as well. So again, how are the Excelsior and Ambassador better spec'd then the Galaxy?
Because it's a video game. We have Fleet Galaxy-class ships now, compare the Ambassador to that, if you want to split hairs.
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# 79
01-30-2013, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bloctoad View Post
Then enjoy your free ship and stop reading the negative comments.

And no one cares if you dislike soup.
I will enjoy it very much thanks. And if you don't like them, then stop reading my positive comments.

And I don't care if no one cares if I dislike soup.
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# 80
01-30-2013, 01:55 PM
this is by far the bulkiest cruiser apart from a odyssey out there T5 wise it also gives sci captains a cruiser in which they can use actual powerful sci powers in on top of that it is on par with everything but the excel in turning cruiserwise so i feel like this ship has potential and i would love to fly that ship around and get to know how it will perform in battle.
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