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# 61 Severe Graphical Lag at ESD
02-01-2013, 12:53 PM
Have not experienced such severe graphical lag in STO ever before.

I'm not sure if its the baloons, but I been in heavy instances with balloons yesterday and it caused no problems. So not sure what's wrong.
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# 62
02-01-2013, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by brokenmirror2012 View Post
This isn't a, why do they have to ruin it for the majority thing. Why does the Minority whos complaining about the balloons have to ruin the majoritys fun. I hate how zone chat sounds, so I will go on the fourms to campaign getting EVERYONE chatbanned. I don't like STFs so I want them all removed, I don't like Crystaline entity, so it should be deleted. I don't like Energy Credits, so delete the currency, I don't have any EC, so it wont affect me so I don't care if u delete it all! I don't like the dkora, so remove it from the game. I don't like balloons so they should all be removed.
You can close chat. You can't close lag. This point is irrelevant on so many levels.


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Originally Posted by brokenmirror2012 View Post
This isn't a case where something is impeding your ability to play. This is like you acedentaly turned up the blue on ur Nivdia Graphics card, and now ur buying a new computr because its blue. No that doesn't make sense, just turn down the blue! Theres an option in the options that gets rid of the debris so you don't have to see it at all, see people spamming balloons, turn down that option! Your the vocal Minority contrary to what you think, the majority is the nonvocal people enjoying the balloons.
Maybe you like balloons but I've been talking to a fair few people who hate being lagged out. As for changing my graphics options, why should I be the one to change when I get to ESD and change back when I head out? Why should I change to accommodate for the people who are lagging other people? It's their actions, not mine, that is changing how the game should behave. If anyone should change it's them.

If I did something that was affecting how the game ran for other people I would cease and desist immediately. My parents raised me to be considerate of others.


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Edit list of places that are unpopulated with these options: New Romulus, Captain's Table, Fleet Starbases, Drazona, there are about 30 ESD instances, im sure 1 of them doesn't have spam, the academy, D'kora bridge, Freighter bridge, Sierra Starbase, Memory Alpha, Bajor, you have no excuses. I just listed 9 diferent places u can go to acess all the Features easily with no interfearance,

Bajor is the number 1, has everything, no one is ever there.
All of a sudden you have a new toy and, lo and behold, using it affects the game for other people. Instead of being considerate to the general community and realising you're affecting the enjoyment of others YOU want US to move out of ESD? How utterly and completely selfish.


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Tuffli and D'kora bridges, anywhere in space via the Azura comm code, starbases and embassies (OK, not quite other-people-free, but if you own the fleet you could implement a no-spam policy on the fleet holdings and kick anyone that breaks it).
Use the Azura comm? I'll do that if you can only use those childish party poppers with an equal cooldown. Include in that extra time to take in to consideration the cooldown on transwarp. Also, popper users can subsidise others getting a D'Kora. See how ludicrous your suggestions are?

Last edited by darramouss1; 02-01-2013 at 12:57 PM.
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# 63
02-01-2013, 01:01 PM
Yeah it's a shame that people in social zones can interact with each other, almost defeats the purpose of a social zone. If you get a pile of lag from people celebrating the 3rd anniversary, or you're just cranky because your tea is cold or you missed your nap, there are other options.

Use an exchange, bank, mail, or tailor on your embassy, a freighter, a D'Kora or a Fleet Base! Yes I realize that not all of those options have each console, but you can easily contact someone in say... the Public Service channel for an invite to one of those options, if say you don't have access to any of them normally, and go about your business without all the messy human interactions with real people that happen in social zones.
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# 64
02-01-2013, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by darramouss1 View Post
Use the Azura comm? I'll do that if you can only use those childish party poppers with an equal cooldown. Include in that extra time to take in to consideration the cooldown on transwarp. Also, popper users can subsidise others getting a D'Kora. See how ludicrous your suggestions are?
You asked for places you can use bank and exchange facilities without being bothered by poppers. I gave you some.

Use them, HTFU or GTFO. Pick one.
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# 65
02-01-2013, 01:08 PM
It's a Party Atmosphere that happens once a year for 14 days...

It will only last for a few days, then die down till the last couple of days, then it'll be over.

You want people to be accommodating but yer not willing to even be a little bit in return?

There are plenty of places in the game where you can avoid the lag during the Anniversary.

Just go with the flow and before ya know it, things will be back to normal.

I run a fairly new NVIDIA card and even I had to adjust my setting a bit last night.

Ease up on the angst folks, it's not worth the ulcers.

...... DaveyNY ...STO Forum Member since February - 2009
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# 66
02-01-2013, 01:09 PM
@darramouss1 - You say that you were brought up to be considerate of others... Do you know how "Inconsiderate" you are sounding?

You want everyone who are having FUN with the poppers to STOP for your own selfish convenience! It's that plain and simple... Try listening to yourself!

If anything, you should be asking the devs to tweak the poppers to eliminating the lag. Not having a go at those who enjoy the fun of using the things during the celebration.

You started the thread stating that you loath ALL party poppers... Not just these new ones that unfortunately cause lag... So, the bare bones of your story is that you hate people having fun and want them to stop, for your own convenience. That's the REAL bottom of your story here!

So, take the advice of your upbringing and be considerate for others and stop being so selfish and trying to spoil the fun that others are having and adjust your attitude toward your fellow players.

Aim your frustrations at the devs instead and ask them to tweak the new popper so that it doesn't cause Lag... Then and only then will you get support from not only myself, but I'm sure many others.

/rant
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# 67
02-01-2013, 01:09 PM
The place where people can use bank and exchange are VERY limited. You can use poppers anywhere, even in the comfort of your own bridge. Instead you choose to do it in ESD.

I live in a block of apartments. When I want to celebrate and have a party I do it in my privacy of my apartment, not in the hallways, as I respect that not everybody may want to celebrate or party in a public area. That's called consideration. If you were considerate you would go to the lower level of ESD. You can move your poppers all around ESD, we cannot move the bank or exchange on ESD.

Emergency restart on the server? Wonder if it has something to do with the server not coping with all the balloons...

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# 68
02-01-2013, 01:13 PM
Have you never heard the term street party? This is basically the same thing.
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# 69
02-01-2013, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by darramouss1 View Post
The place where people can use bank and exchange are VERY limited. You can use poppers anywhere, even in the comfort of your own bridge. Instead you choose to do it in ESD.

I live in a block of apartments. When I want to celebrate and have a party I do it in my privacy of my apartment, not in the hallways, as I respect that not everybody may want to celebrate or party in a public area. That's called consideration. If you were considerate you would go to the lower level of ESD. You can move your poppers all around ESD, we cannot move the bank or exchange on ESD.
You might have missed my post on the previous thread... Last post of the thread. You want something done? Take my advice I have given there, because at the moment, you are being very selfish and inconsiderate yourself.

At the moment, you're going about it all in the wrong way. Don't have a pop (pun not intended) at the player base... Instead, make your plea to the devs and ask them to try and fix the problem. Don't expect the majority of 2 million players to just STOP using the popper.

I rest my case.

Last edited by c0nd1t10nr3d; 02-01-2013 at 01:22 PM.
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# 70
02-01-2013, 01:20 PM
We're watching feedback on this and may adjust things towards or the of the event, or after it ends. I'm passing along your feedback, but in the meantime, feel free to lower "max debris" to 0 and the balloons will disappear

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
Brandon "BranFlakes" Felczer | Former Community Team Lead for Perfect World Entertainment
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