Ensign
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1
# 11 STO Rant
10-27-2012, 01:30 AM
After seiing some advertisement about STO I have decided to give it a go.
After making my registration (my email confirmation didnt arrived), and proceeding with the download (13GB for a online game ), when finished i get error 36 (OK - i just have to run as administrator), but when i tried to run it again - starts to download the same 13GB.
Unfortantly my patience as a limit, Im quiting when I even didnt log in one time!
A company that cant deliver a product to the customer, isnt trustworthy - dont risk your money.

Its laughable - couldnt even make my own post.
"At this time, you may only post replies to threads that have already been created".
Lieutenant
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 61
# 12 oh dear...
11-09-2012, 04:24 PM
PMB, really now?
I don't want my account to be banned or censored so I'll just say this.

Please use the torrent option. You will save yourself a million times less technical issues, headaches, and hassles. uTorrent is a great no-install tiny torrent client.

Torrenting is 100% legal as long as it is something that is able to be freely distributed. So if you use the torrent file provided on the download page and help torrent the file you are NOT breaking any laws, ever!

I have to say this because the way the US media portrays torrenting as something evil or illegal is complete BS. Linux users in particular use torrents to distribute ISOs (CD Images) of their various flavors of the operating system they use. Many (good) F2P games have torrenting as an option.

In another NcSoft debacle, they force PMB onto their users and neglect to even include a torrenting option. Their 'A' game is pretty good (if you don't mind the broken and unfair PvP where numbers > gear > luck > RNG > skill) but the forced PMB is a dealbreaker for many people and they lost a lot of interest after the F2P launch because of it. They haven't recovered from that and have been forced to cater to the non-English market to make ends meet.

TECHIE STUFF:

PMB has major technical and privacy issues that have already been analyzed by a fantastic friend of mine from the 'A' game whose name I can't type out here for w/e reason.

These include:

-a spyware-ish addon stealth-installed into your browser (mostly IE but also some other browsers)

-throttling upload which means it sucks up as much upload bandwidth as it can which means it slows down nearly EVERYTHING you do on your computer.

-excessive data writes to your hard drive which wears it out faster (though this happens if you overdo it on downloading/uploading/using a hard drive anyways)

-downloading data for transfer to others for GAMES YOU DO NOT EVEN PLAY (confirmed by my friend that data for other random PMB-enabled games like LotRO and LoL were being downloaded/distributed w/o his knowledge or consent)

-PMB uses 'torrenting' technology but it doesn't have a visible UI and the control panel sometimes has to be run in admin mode in Win7 for the changes to 'stick'.

-PMB torrents may be 'tainted' by bad data. Without a visible UI (like any other torrent client) you can't monitor or discard 'bad data' and several of the PMB torrents have been analyzed by techie people to determine that malicious people have been altering and messing with the files already. This poses serious security and stability implications.

-Just use regular torrents, please! Help yourself and help other fellow gamers! Torrents are SAFE and most decent clients like uTorrent automatically monitor and discard 'bad' data or data that doesn't match the right checksum. In other words, the data you get will be good. There ARE ways around it that are inherant flaws in the torrent system itself but for most purposes that can be fixed with the launcher which verifies the files and replaces bad ones.

Last edited by endafresh; 11-09-2012 at 04:39 PM. Reason: seriously, auto-censoring the names of other games is NOT necessary!
Lieutenant
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 61
# 13 too bad... :(
11-09-2012, 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onamaek View Post
After seiing some advertisement about STO I have decided to give it a go.
After making my registration (my email confirmation didnt arrived), and proceeding with the download (13GB for a online game ), when finished i get error 36 (OK - i just have to run as administrator), but when i tried to run it again - starts to download the same 13GB.
Unfortantly my patience as a limit, Im quiting when I even didnt log in one time!
A company that cant deliver a product to the customer, isnt trustworthy - dont risk your money.

Its laughable - couldnt even make my own post.
"At this time, you may only post replies to threads that have already been created".
If you do any gaming on any OS after WinXP and don't know that you have to use 'Run as Administrator' whenever you install any program or game or run a game launcher, that is your fault.

What a shame, we could've used another ally to join us.
Ensign
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1
# 14 setup file isnt working
11-23-2012, 02:13 AM
i click on it and and let it change things and after that nothing else happens. can anyone help?
Ensign
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1
# 15
12-13-2012, 02:33 AM
copyed and pasted from the tech support site. and here i thought a fellow player (and actual techno junky) would have better insite since u kno, tech support for stuff is over rated and 90% of the time doesnt help. been trouble shooting and everything I can think of from the tech pages since 10:30 pm and its not 4:31 am and of course im still working on it. if only they had any clue and tips that really help. cuz that PMB thing WONT OPEN WHEN PROMTED, i bet u didnt see that coming huh.... O yea i ended it on the task mang. but it still crazy stupid....



5:20 AM...... downloaded the Torrent, download was fast, easy and PAIN FREE!!!! now if i can get it to run ill be even happier, lol.

Last edited by warplotus; 12-13-2012 at 03:25 AM.
Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2
# 16
02-04-2013, 01:25 AM
Hi,

I'm new here, and pondering to plunge myself into my greatest sci-fi of all time.

Just need some confirmation/answers on some questions, as I have a limited bandwidth/quota line....


I see the game client download is around 4GB, does it include all patches up to now? or do I have to to run countless patches(more more bandwidth) to bring it up to date? and if so, anybody have any size figures?
Ensign
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 11
# 17
05-18-2013, 06:36 AM
I can heartily recommend any and everyone to never touch Panda Media Booster or any similar "boost" program. They do in fact not speed up anything, but rather it blocks everything that isnt whatever its "boosting". Nearly all of them contain spyware and other things logging what you do.

Why the hell would anyone with even half a brain sticky a thread recommending spyware programs to phantom boost downloads?

Do it properly like us europeans, tweak your registry and optimize your networks card and remove throtting built in your OS. Speedguide threw most of those optimization down in a simple program even.

http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

That is the only program in existance that actually can boost TCP downloads and torrent connectivity by optimizing networks cards and removing OS throttling afaik. You change your local settings with it once and then its done till you reinstall windows or whatnot.

And the instructions to run it? Download, run, drag the slider closest to your internet connections speed or just 100Mbit/s, tick in optimal settings in the general settings and and advanced settings tabs, apply changes and reboot as registry key changes dont apply till you reboot..

Last edited by ewtastic; 05-18-2013 at 06:50 AM.
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