Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 31
02-03-2013, 05:10 PM
I never opened the boxes before. So I gave it a try to see what happens. Opened up 5 of them. I got a few lobi nothing of major amount. No mining claims which would help me since I do that mini game when I'm near DS9. I got 2 boxes of duty officers. Which I added to the roster. And I got a Universe Carrier for my KDF. I hadn't added the ship yet, but not sure what to do with it yet.

I keeping the boxes for now. Have plans on opening up 5 more later on. First I want a few items off the store other than keys.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 68
# 32
02-04-2013, 05:11 AM
It always keeps me wonder if there is a way of improving our chances in getting the prize ship or 50 lobi crystals out of lockboxes.

The reason being is that I saw someone getting 2 lockbox ships in 2 days It's a a very good luck thing for him. This was before the Dominion box came out, so it was still with Temporal lockbox event.

Now, I am short of 28 lobi crystals to upgrade my Jem'Hadar ground equipment set. I hope I could get the JH Escort Carrier.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2012
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# 33
02-04-2013, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cptrichardson12 View Post
You can get 5000 dilith per claim if you're even remotely good at it.

Or, to put it plainer: You can recover up to 380000 of your costs with those.
This is not entirely accurate. You should only consider the "recovery" as what extra dilith he would make OVER what he could make in the same amount of time doing the typical things in game (investigates, conduit elite, etc.) Still a benefit but not to the degree you suggest.
Starfleet Veteran
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# 34
02-04-2013, 06:38 AM
5,000 Dilithium currently works out to about 800k EC, but when you get a minimum of 7 claims (35,000 Dilithium), that works out to 5.6mil EC. That more than covers the cost of the lockbox key. Even better, it hardly takes 5 minutes to get that 5k dilithium each day.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 456
# 35
02-04-2013, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mariothebros View Post
The reason being is that I saw someone getting 2 lockbox ships in 2 days It's a a very good luck thing for him. This was before the Dominion box came out, so it was still with Temporal lockbox event.
I would guess it's either true RNG luck or hehad a stack ofkeys and spammed opening them hoping for a fortuitous server glitch.
Leave nerfing to the professionals.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 36
02-04-2013, 08:39 AM
Hmm bad luck OP?

I opened.. 145 lock boxes, ( between 3 toons )

1350+ Lobi ( got the ground set upgrade, space set upgrade,dom carrier & 2x assault mini guns )

1 Dominion ship ( got in the first 40 )

7 mirror carriers ( all sold for 850k each )

Too many dilithium tickets to count.. about 150+

25 polaron weapons, 10 ground.. Sold the space weapons making 50+ mil ( 2 turrets alone were 13mil each )

15-18 purple dominion officers

about 40-50 doff packs, usually sell for 80k-125k each depending on when you sell, or sell them individually.

Now, I think the last lockbox had much better prizes, if the dilithium tickets werent character bound they would be friggin great.

I also do think the drop rate for the ship is poo. But some of us get luckier than others, it is the lotto after all! Not everyone can win.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 185
# 37
02-04-2013, 08:54 AM
My best toon will now spend nearly 3 months dilithium mining, with dil from doffs and un-needed omega marks and processors there is not much point doing STFs with her.

From the characters point of view it is a bit like a prison sentence.

At least it is not Rura Penthe!
"He tasks me. He tasks me, and I shall have him. For every doff box bought, I'll chase him round the Moons of Nibia and round the Antares Maelstrom and round Perdition's flames. For every single doff box opened, I stab at thee from hell's heart. For every single doff contributed, I spit my last breath at thee..." Khan Playing STO
Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 38
02-04-2013, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ashtaku View Post
Jack, you're absolutely right that expecting specific rewards from the lockboxes is a recipe for disappointing. Like you, the only prize I count on is the Lobi and doff packs... if I get a rare prize on top of that I look at it as a bonus.
Adding to my previous post, I did receive 50 Lobi in one dominion box the other day! A once off too I might add for me anyways. The Ferengi LB are apparently the most generous giving up to 20 at a time. The rest are between 4 and 10 I think.

In another note, there is some shady little Ferengi in the right hand corner by the window just across from the water fountain by Admiral Quinn's office in Earth Spacedock GIVING AWAY lockboxes and Keys!!!!

He caught my eye yesterday as I ran past. I approached out of curiosity and he sent me to Drozana Station. The minute you beam into the station there is a crate directly ahead of you glowing. If you open it you will complete the mission he sent you on and get two boxes and two keys. Inside you get only 1 item (either 1 lobi or special ship/ground equipment) as oppose to the usual 2 items (lobi & special equipment). The keys you get from him do NOT open regular lock boxes either unfortunately.

In truth, if people are really hard up about getting stuff off of the lobi store but do not want to waste their time on lock boxes I recommend you contact people like me. I'll happily buy the stuff for you and sell them for EC.
"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa (2006)
Career Officer
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# 39
02-04-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dabelgrave View Post

Damn, you've bought alot of keys.
Glad someone has the disposable income to find out this stuff.
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have stuff to rant about on the forums!

Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12,150
# 40
02-04-2013, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by twg042370 View Post
I've been doing the same with my dil just because I need a new ship like I need a hole in the head.

I've found the secondary rewards in this box to be far better than the secondary rewards in the last couple since those were more fleet focused. Just as useful as the Cardassian box IMHO.

The gear and ships are good for some quick exchange cash. The doffs (Which have been the reward given about 75% of the time) are pretty helpful for your lower level toons. And sometimes you get one or two to sell on the exchange.

I like doing the mining because it's quick and easy and fun to bounce around in the low gravity, so the claims are welcome to me.

As for the Lobi... You get more on average from the Ferengi box I believe. But you still have to wait a while to get anything useful from the Lobi store. Since I keep very little in my bank (All gear is either equipped, sold, or passed along to another character) the Lobi pile sitting there isn't hurting me.

Over all, I like this box and if a player doesn't have anything better to do with their dil-bought Zen like me, I don't see why they don't open a few.
Yeah, I've had decent returns myself. I got a few of the new special purple Doffs. what I got most often was reinforcements packs. I didn't see anything even remotely close to a 76% drop rate of dil mining claims.
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