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A few months ago, I started to wonder why one specific weapon type is absent from STO.

Pretty much every game includes a rocket launcher of some kind.
Yet, STO has nothing in this area.

But they do exist in Trek Technology:
Isomagnetic Disintegrator

Worf used this weapon to shoot down a shuttle and stun an enemy attack group.


So, is there some reason why this weapon has not been researched as an addition to the Trek arsenal?


I'm assuming it's game mechanics more then anything, there is no current weapon along these lines.
Although, Champions Online has a rocket launcher skill with the requisite animations, so adapting that for STO can't be too hard.
And there is some crossover of the base code for animations between the two games.
An enterprising foundry author found a way to enable a couple of the CO animations by using a console, which would imply there is a "shared" animation base.
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# 2
02-04-2013, 09:51 AM
There is something that's almost a rocket launcher... the Blast Assault guns. They're pretty weak, though, and use the same model as the miniguns.
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# 3
02-04-2013, 12:58 PM
Oh please not that thing.

Lets see, does exactly what a Phaser can do yet is far more cumbersome and bulky... it's the epitome of Starfleet engineering.
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# 4
02-04-2013, 01:11 PM
I never understood why they didn't take a cue from Elite Force when it came to weapons design, all of which I liked. and most of which are in STO, the minigun, the sniper rifles, hell even shotguns are in this game, the only a few weapons that are NOT in STO is the Quantum Photon Burst (mini torpedo launcher) and the Photon Grenade Launcher, and The Arc Welder.
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# 5
02-04-2013, 01:33 PM
So then Worf suddenly has a purple space bazooka. He fires it at a bunch of stuntmen and one of them jumps after the explosion. He isn't really propelled by the actual explosion, but moreso by himself jumping.

...Oh wait, this is the wrong movie.

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# 6
02-04-2013, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fulleatherjacket View Post
So then Worf suddenly has a purple space bazooka. He fires it at a bunch of stuntmen and one of them jumps after the explosion. He isn't really propelled by the actual explosion, but moreso by himself jumping.

...Oh wait, this is the wrong movie.
Plinkett FTW

TNG movies are garbage.
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# 7
02-04-2013, 05:35 PM
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Lets see, does exactly what a Phaser can do yet is far more cumbersome and bulky... it's the epitome of Starfleet engineering.
Can you shoot down a shuttle with a handphaser?
Or stun 5-8 soldiers at once?

It's a Heavy weapon, a lot more powerful then a phaser!
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# 8
02-04-2013, 09:13 PM
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Can you shoot down a shuttle with a handphaser?
Or stun 5-8 soldiers at once?

It's a Heavy weapon, a lot more powerful then a phaser!
For a shuttle it depends on if it is shielded or not. According to TNG Tech Manual; if it's not then Setting 10-12 would vaporize part or all of the hull. If it is shielded then Setting 16 would begin to fracture it. So to shoot down a shielded shuttle several hand Phasers or a single Phaser of slightly more power would be needed.

For stunning 5-8 soldiers, oh heck yea:

Quote:
"They sacrificed hundreds just to draw us out in the open. And then they came, and they came. We drained four of our phasers, and they still came. We killed thousands and they still came!" -Ronald Tracey in The Omega Glory
Capt. Tracey was talking about his crew's Type 2 phasers.

Claudius in Bread and Circuses implied that the crew of the Enterprise could defeat the combined armies of his planet in ground combat.

A Hand Phaser is actually one incredible weapon.
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# 9
02-04-2013, 09:40 PM
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A Hand Phaser is actually one incredible weapon.
And you can make coffee with it!
http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o633/centersolace/189cux9khvl6ojpg_zpsca7ccff0.jpg

So inhumane superweapons, mass murder, and canon nonsense is okay, but speedos are too much for some people.
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# 10 About phasers and beam spread
02-04-2013, 11:35 PM
The main reason why I think a phaser is not comparable to an Isomagnetic Disintegrator is the beam spread and force of impact of the blast.

Phaser beams when configured for wide beam would probably hit 2-3 targets at best.

They're designed to hit single targets, not deliver AOE shots.

Also, the high level of energy required to deliver a blast that powerful would now doubt require quite a large power cell and firing mechanism.
Hence why the weapon is larger then the standard phaser rifle.


I'm assuming there had to be a reason why this weapon was created, after all, the Starfleet Armory Research Division aren't idiots.

Oh wait, they're the ones who recommended we use better phasers against the Borg instead of the TR-116a rifle and it's associated weapon technology!
Never mind......
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