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(I'm joshing for fun here, so no one has to go one a long rant about anything said. )

The thread about ideas for a new Star Trek series had of late become more about what is canon or not. But there are some things that are canon that need more explanation. Like:
  1. Romulan ale. Its illegal in the Federation, right? But as we've seen in the shows, Starfleet officers seem to be able to get it anyway. But why is it illegal? Alcohol isn't illegal in the Federation, even though they have synthehol. (synthehol is for lightweights!) Even if its illegal for Romulan brewers to sell it to the Feds, that doesn't make it illegal for the Feds unless its a FEDERATION law that its banned. Besides, couldn't an average fed citizen just go home and have his personal replicator make it anyway? (fighting urge to not go on my rant about replicators...maybe another time) Is there a total ban on trade with the romulans in that time period (Kirk through Picard)? If not wouldn't a savvy shipping business import it? seems silly to turn away a profitable business venture. If it were me, I'd be all like "Come to Star Enterprises Imports! The sole importer of T'Lek's bonafide Romulan Ale! Its great for Oktoberfest parties!" (and we know they have Oktoberfest, since Sisko and Cal Hudson remarked on going to one at "New Berlin" in the early DS9 episodes.
  2. Tribbles hate klingons. But they like Vulcans. But do they like Romulans?
  3. Vulcan is a hot planet, as we've seen in the series. (though, it can't be all desert). I think Spock once said in an old episode how he found the Enterprise to always be a little colder than what he's comfortable in...and he's half human). So wouldn't vulcans serving in Starfleet.,...which we can easily see have more humans than nonhumans on their ships...(maybe humans are the "tribbles" of humanoid species in the Trekverse, breeding prodigously) find starships uncomfortable? They evolved on a planet that is by our terms, pretty hot and arid. By the same token Andorians come from a frozen planet. Wouldn't they find temperatures unbearable at say 80 or more degrees farenheit? Here in Fayetteville, NC it can get downright stupid hot a few weeks of the summer. I'd love to invite an Andorian (if they were real) to one of my BBQs. "Hey Shran, you want another burger...oh, daggone it, he passed out again.".
  4. What exactly is klingon bloodwine made of? Does it have blood in it?
  5. I can honestly say I would shareDoctor McCoy's reservations about the Transporter. Wouldn't you?
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# 2
02-04-2013, 04:15 PM
1. Romulan ale is only illegal because of a trade embargo against the Romulan Empire. During the brief truce during the Dominion War, it was actually legal in the Federation.

2. The relationship between Tribbles and Romulans is complicated.

3. You think Fayetteville is hot? Try Texas! lol. Buddy of mine moved from here in Texas to Charlotte last year and was amazed at how much more bearable the summers were.

4. The first glass of bloodwine was made from slaughtered Hurq. These days they just throw in some tomato juice and call it good.

5. Most definitely. Is that person stepping out on the other end of this thing really me?

Porthos is not amused.

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# 3
02-04-2013, 04:20 PM
1) See collegepark's post.

2) I don't see why tribbles wouldn't like Vulcans and Romulans.

3) Vulcans are pretty resiliant. While they may be slightly uncomfortable in cooler temperatures, they should be able to adapt fine. They seem to be fine with 1G gravity as well.

4) It's probably just your normal alcoholic beverage. They call it bloodwine because it sounds cooler.

5) Absolutely.
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# 4
02-04-2013, 04:23 PM
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(I'm joshing for fun here, so no one has to go one a long rant about anything said. )
In that spirit...
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Originally Posted by captnurntumber View Post
Romulan ale. Its illegal in the Federation, right? But as we've seen in the shows, Starfleet officers seem to be able to get it anyway. But why is it illegal? Alcohol isn't illegal in the Federation, even though they have synthehol. (synthehol is for lightweights!) Even if its illegal for Romulan brewers to sell it to the Feds, that doesn't make it illegal for the Feds unless its a FEDERATION law that its banned. Besides, couldn't an average fed citizen just go home and have his personal replicator make it anyway? (fighting urge to not go on my rant about replicators...maybe another time) Is there a total ban on trade with the romulans in that time period (Kirk through Picard)? If not wouldn't a savvy shipping business import it? seems silly to turn away a profitable business venture. If it were me, I'd be all like "Come to Star Enterprises Imports! The sole importer of T'Lek's bonafide Romulan Ale! Its great for Oktoberfest parties!" (and we know they have Oktoberfest, since Sisko and Cal Hudson remarked on going to one at "New Berlin" in the early DS9 episodes.
It was banned after the entire graduating class of 2153 got drunk on Romulan Ale and disastrously tried to perform a Kolvoord Starburst with over 500 ships. That whole thing about a Xindi weapon blowing up Florida was a cover story.
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Tribbles hate klingons. But they like Vulcans. But do they like Romulans?
No, but the angry, warlike Tribble Empire that broke away from the peaceful Tribbles hundreds of years ago do.
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Vulcan is a hot planet, as we've seen in the series. (though, it can't be all desert). I think Spock once said in an old episode how he found the Enterprise to always be a little colder than what he's comfortable in...and he's half human). So wouldn't vulcans serving in Starfleet.,...which we can easily see have more humans than nonhumans on their ships...(maybe humans are the "tribbles" of humanoid species in the Trekverse, breeding prodigously) find starships uncomfortable? They evolved on a planet that is by our terms, pretty hot and arid. By the same token Andorians come from a frozen planet. Wouldn't they find temperatures unbearable at say 80 or more degrees farenheit? Here in Fayetteville, NC it can get downright stupid hot a few weeks of the summer. I'd love to invite an Andorian (if they were real) to one of my BBQs. "Hey Shran, you want another burger...oh, daggone it, he passed out again.".
In an evolutionary twist that's stumped Federation exobiologists, it turns out that neither the Vulcans nor the Andorians ever really adapted to their climates. The Vulcans were always just miserably hot and the Andorians were freezing cold. Most of the wars the Federation's fought have been because other planets were jealous of Earth getting all the good weather.
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What exactly is klingon bloodwine made of? Does it have blood in it?
The Klingons had trouble competing with Romulan Ale before they found their niche with vampire drinkers.
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I can honestly say I would shareDoctor McCoy's reservations about the Transporter. Wouldn't you?
Just be sure to write a will leaving everything to yourself before transport and you'll be fine.
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# 5
02-04-2013, 04:51 PM
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In that spirit...


It was banned after the entire graduating class of 2153 got drunk on Romulan Ale and disastrously tried to perform a Kolvoord Starburst with over 500 ships. That whole thing about a Xindi weapon blowing up Florida was a cover story.


No, but the angry, warlike Tribble Empire that broke away from the peaceful Tribbles hundreds of years ago do.


In an evolutionary twist that's stumped Federation exobiologists, it turns out that neither the Vulcans nor the Andorians ever really adapted to their climates. The Vulcans were always just miserably hot and the Andorians were freezing cold. Most of the wars the Federation's fought have been because other planets were jealous of Earth getting all the good weather.


The Klingons had trouble competing with Romulan Ale before they found their niche with vampire drinkers.


Just be sure to write a will leaving everything to yourself before transport and you'll be fine.
LMAO! Dude, you win the thread!
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# 6
02-04-2013, 05:49 PM
Hey we can keep going! Especially since sparklysoldier's post was hilarious....

6. TOS had a lot of interesting places that were never visited again....2 of which come to mind...The planet where "Plato's Stepchildren" took place and the planet of the Guardian of Forever. Considering that both places are probably dangerous locations to let the general public know of, not to mention your enemies, I always wondered about what Starfleet did about 'em. The Plato people supposedly live a looooong time and Captain Kirk even asserted that they'd go back to being d-bags as soon as the Enterprise left. So did they just leave or did they leave warning buoys around the system that said "Warning: Incredible ****heads live here. Don't approach" or even fake out ones like " WARNING: The planetary system is filled with Super Duper SPace Plague. Even scanning it can infect you." As for the Guardian....well, if I were in charge of Starfleet I'd build the most fortified starbase in the universe there just to make sure the klingons and romulans didn't go there. Of course they didn't and thats why the Guardian appears in the game. (as a kid I always thought the guardian looked like a Glazed donut)

7. why are the Borg stupid? They want to destroy the Federation right? So why not stop attacking them and go after the Klingons first? No offense klingon lovers, but the Borg could probably steamroll them. Because the Klingons would probably send wave after wave of warriors to be killed or assimilated. Sure, the klingons might actually drive them off but they darn sure wouldn't look for a scientific way of doing it. They're more likely to just just try to bat'leth them to death. (Thats why I didn't say Romulans or Cardassians. The Romulans would probably outthink them, and the cardassians would swallow their pride and ask for help from the feds if the borg really went after them. )

8. When the planet Risa was first mentioned in TNG I thought it was a planet that the Federation had colonized and it was so nice that tourism became its primary industry. (fighting urge, once again, to not get into how the "no money" thing is so frackin' stupid....I tend to ignore it just so I can enjoy the show). But according to a DS9 episode, IIRC, Risa has its own indigenous population....and its weather controlled. (another really dumb idea, IMHO. Outside of terraforming a hostile environment, I'd like to think that the feds would not try to trump mother nature...but thats just me). How sucky can that be? Grow up on Risa and take your pick of service industry jobs. Admittedly, it must be a nice place to live, but damn, it seems limited...and fragile since Worf took over the weather control with ONE PADD.

9. OK, I've always imagined that they had something like this....Galactic Standard Time. Because there are 24 hrs in an Earth Day. There are 26 hours in a Bajoran Day. The measurement of time during a day, or even years between planets is a big margin. Even ignoring the complications of FTL space travel it would only make sense. Because 3 PM can't be the same 3 PM everywhere. I'd hate to have an appointment on another planet and find out its at 30 PM. I can't stay up that late, I'm gettin' too old for that. Thats more of a suggestion than a question, I know.

10. If you were in high school when the feds and the klingons were allies would you take a klingon date to the prom? I daggone sure would. First, I know she'd be really good at partying....second, I know she could kick the *** out of anyone messing with me. Besides, none of the vulcan chicks would go out with me.
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# 7
02-04-2013, 06:06 PM
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6. TOS had a lot of interesting places that were never visited again....2 of which come to mind...The planet where "Plato's Stepchildren" took place and the planet of the Guardian of Forever. Considering that both places are probably dangerous locations to let the general public know of, not to mention your enemies, I always wondered about what Starfleet did about 'em. The Plato people supposedly live a looooong time and Captain Kirk even asserted that they'd go back to being d-bags as soon as the Enterprise left. So did they just leave or did they leave warning buoys around the system that said "Warning: Incredible ****heads live here. Don't approach" or even fake out ones like " WARNING: The planetary system is filled with Super Duper SPace Plague. Even scanning it can infect you." As for the Guardian....well, if I were in charge of Starfleet I'd build the most fortified starbase in the universe there just to make sure the klingons and romulans didn't go there. Of course they didn't and thats why the Guardian appears in the game. (as a kid I always thought the guardian looked like a Glazed donut)
I imagine they'd cover up information about the Guardian rather than quarantine it. Putting a huge starbase in the system would be like building a sign than says "Something awesome is here!" Not sure about the Platon planet, I haven't seen that one yet.

Mmm ... donuts ...

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7. why are the Borg stupid? They want to destroy the Federation right? So why not stop attacking them and go after the Klingons first? No offense klingon lovers, but the Borg could probably steamroll them. Because the Klingons would probably send wave after wave of warriors to be killed or assimilated. Sure, the klingons might actually drive them off but they darn sure wouldn't look for a scientific way of doing it. They're more likely to just just try to bat'leth them to death. (Thats why I didn't say Romulans or Cardassians. The Romulans would probably outthink them, and the cardassians would swallow their pride and ask for help from the feds if the borg really went after them. )
They seem to view the Federation as a greater threat to the Collective. While the Klingons have a tough military, they do - like you said - have a tendancy to go "Klingon SMASH" rather than try to outthink their enemy.

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8. When the planet Risa was first mentioned in TNG I thought it was a planet that the Federation had colonized and it was so nice that tourism became its primary industry. (fighting urge, once again, to not get into how the "no money" thing is so frackin' stupid....I tend to ignore it just so I can enjoy the show). But according to a DS9 episode, IIRC, Risa has its own indigenous population....and its weather controlled. (another really dumb idea, IMHO. Outside of terraforming a hostile environment, I'd like to think that the feds would not try to trump mother nature...but thats just me). How sucky can that be? Grow up on Risa and take your pick of service industry jobs. Admittedly, it must be a nice place to live, but damn, it seems limited...and fragile since Worf took over the weather control with ONE PADD.
I'm sure many Risians choose to pursue careers off-world. Though their culture does seem to revolve entirely around hospitality.

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9. OK, I've always imagined that they had something like this....Galactic Standard Time. Because there are 24 hrs in an Earth Day. There are 26 hours in a Bajoran Day. The measurement of time during a day, or even years between planets is a big margin. Even ignoring the complications of FTL space travel it would only make sense. Because 3 PM can't be the same 3 PM everywhere. I'd hate to have an appointment on another planet and find out its at 30 PM. I can't stay up that late, I'm gettin' too old for that. Thats more of a suggestion than a question, I know.
I believe that's what the stardate system is for.

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10. If you were in high school when the feds and the klingons were allies would you take a klingon date to the prom? I daggone sure would. First, I know she'd be really good at partying....second, I know she could kick the *** out of anyone messing with me. Besides, none of the vulcan chicks would go out with me.
I guess. If we seemed to get along.
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# 8
02-04-2013, 06:37 PM
Specificlly about your reply to number 8. think about how Rom and Nog weren't happy about having to go into Ferengi business. Sure arisa native can look offworld for a career, but it can't be all that easy.
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# 9
02-04-2013, 06:46 PM
Here's a Voyager question. I've been watching the series all the way through for the first time (just starting season 7 now), and I'm wondering, does Seven of Nine actually hold some sort of Starfleet rank once she's made part of the crew? I mean, they give her a badge, but they also gave one to Neelix and Kes. She also seems to order around a lot of the other characters, and if she's a civilian passenger, you'd think a few more of them would have a problem with that.

This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
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# 10
02-04-2013, 06:56 PM
Here is a Trek question: If someone from our time was teleported into the time of TNG would they not use the holodeck for anything other than.. (rhymes with Gorn)
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