Lt. Commander
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# 21
11-29-2011, 06:55 AM
It won't be so bad as long as the new tier of ships allow the consoles for the CP ships. I mainly look at the ones that are ship-type specific like the MVAM console. If there's a T6 ship that can use the console then I have no problems with it
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# 22
11-29-2011, 07:20 AM
Smartest way to do a t6 ship is to allow the player to drydock any ship they want and add/re-distribute weapon and BOOF slots. Be able to move a 4th weapon slot foreward on an intrepid re-fit or even a 5th forward on crusiers and escorts. drop that useless ens. slot and add it to another slot to make a lt.comm. into a comm. slot. Have this as the reward for reaching whatever the next rank would be.
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# 23
11-29-2011, 07:28 AM
Personally instead of a t-6 "ship" I'd like to see a refit as well. Keep the ensign slots but allow them to use ltc and and an additional universal consul slot . However I think there should be a visual change as well so besides seeing my new rank when you target me you can tell by the ship at a glance. Klinks should get a dedicated carrier upgrade and maybe add the typhoon as a t 4 1/2 with only two hangers
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# 24
02-06-2013, 10:13 PM
It is going to be interesting, that is for certain.

One of their challenges is going to be to introduce the new tier of ships while staying "canon".

Although this is a Federation can bet that there is intense interest on the Klingon side as well.

Personally...I think that the only thing that Cryptic can reasonably do is to somehow make it possible for certain iconic ships to undergo a refit to Tier 6. I find it hard to believe that the Galaxy X and the Sovvy would become obsolete overnight....

Besides...there are not that many iconic Federation ships out there that can become a "tier 6" vessel -- at least not enough to maintain the Federation domination of variety and multiple roles.

Klingons face many of the same challenges -- the Bird of Prey, Raptor, Neghvar, and Vorcha vessels are the mainstay of the Klingon fleet vessel types...there really aren't that many options for Cryptic to pull out of the hat to replace those ships at Tier 6.

I bet that what is likely to happen is something that is similar to the Fleet Vessel system currently in place where you will be provided with some sort of upgrade package that will refit a Tier 5 to Tier 6...along with a few truly unique vessel options as well...I am just guessing here...but that makes logical sense.

The BIG losers with the move to Tier Six vessels are going to be those captains who fly lockbox vessels..I just don't see those being upgraded. Two of my captains fly lockbox ships (the Korgath Sci Vessel and the Bug Ship). My third flies a fleet Vorcha. If Tier 6 represents as much of a leap forward as the other Tiers transitions do...then all of those lockbox ships will become obsolete overnight.

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# 25
02-06-2013, 10:27 PM
Necro post. this thread is pres5. that is way before fleet ships or the oddy bundle.
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# 26
02-06-2013, 10:41 PM
LOL. You know...I just saw that. Sigh. Oh well. Still -- the topic is now valid, now that there is buzz regarding a level increase and Tier 6 ships in several of the interviews DStahl has done recently.

Oh well.
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# 27
02-06-2013, 11:59 PM
come on T6 defiant class! 5 tactical consoles, commander tac, lt commander slot, lt commander engie slot! all the dps joy of the fleet defiant with an engineer slot worthy of Miles Edward O'Brien!
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# 28
02-07-2013, 01:20 AM
Introducing Tier 6 ships without anykind of discount for VA ship owners would get them a lot of disgruntled players who have bought T5 ships, especially three-set-bundles.

It's probably going to be something similar to what fleet ships are, and lockbox ships will get boost to match T6 ships like they did when fleet ships were introduced as lockbox ships got all tenth console slot.

My guess is second commander slot or current commander slot will get fifth ability and previous lt. commander slot becomes commander slot.
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# 29
02-07-2013, 01:32 AM
Originally Posted by ztempest View Post
LOL. You know...I just saw that. Sigh. Oh well. Still -- the topic is now valid, now that there is buzz regarding a level increase and Tier 6 ships in several of the interviews DStahl has done recently.

Oh well.
I would argue... that we may as well just re-classify all ships with the "Fleet" Moniker as well as several of the Lock Box Ships (basically any ship with 10 consoles instead of 9) as Tier 6 instead of Tier 5 as they are in effect a Tier above what was generally expected to have been available back when this thread was first produced.

In fact, in the case of Fleet Vessels in particular there is a serious issue of there actually being multiple tiers above and beyond Tier 5 due to there being additional tiers of ships based on the tier of shipyard your fleet has access to. So you could almost say that the Fleet Ships are Tiers 6 through 10.

Additionally, I thought I had heard that Cryptic was going to be focusing on the Reputation system more than the leveling system from now on. So them adding new levels now would kind of defeat the purpose of them having added the reputation system if you ask me.
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# 30
08-08-2014, 04:45 PM
Originally Posted by Archived Post View Post
I read someplace that Cryptic was eventually going to add in another rank for all players, which would bring us another ten levels and a new tier of ships (rather than a lateral tier as with Vice Admiral).

My question is, does anyone know if they plan on keeping current endgame ships relevant? It would be kind of a kick in the pants to no longer be able to use ships like the Defiant-R, the Dreadnought, and all these other ships we've got for endgame.

I have personally become very attached to my Defiant-R, and I'm looking forward to trying out the new Quad Cannons... the idea that I wouldn't be able to use it at 61 doesn't sit well with me, though I can see them doing it. They're resisting putting out a retrofit of several popular ships like the Akira, so it wouldn't be too far outside the realm of possibility for them to leave most of the ships we're currently using behind.
From what I am understanding there will be a system sort of like R&D that will allow you to do special refits to your current ships to bring them up to par with the Tier 6 starships. The details of this hasn't been released yet.
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