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Lt. Commander
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# 41
02-07-2013, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by artan42 View Post
Death Star.
It kinda invalidates any arguments about the Borg.
Not really. The Death Star takes forever to charge up its planet killing laser, which is fixed and can only target one enemy at a time. The Borg would just need to send an armada against it, get a few drones on board, and there goes the Empire.
Captain
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# 42
02-07-2013, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by artan42 View Post
Death Star.
It kinda invalidates any arguments about the Borg.
Death Star...Death Star...Oh yes! You mean the station that was destroyed twice by a ragtag bunch of Rebel pilots right?

Oh I agree, I'm sure a faction that specialises in learning and adapting to everything would have a real hard time taking one down.
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# 43
02-07-2013, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by janusforbeare View Post
Not really. The Death Star takes forever to charge up its planet killing laser, which is fixed and can only target one enemy at a time. The Borg would just need to send an armada against it, get a few drones on board, and there goes the Empire.
Not in Jedi, it can and does fire several shots to destroy Mon Cal Cruisers., besides if the Borg did send a an armada against DSII, they would still have to get through the Imperial Starfleet first.

Plus the capital ship weapons on ISD's appear to be actual projectiles not energy, so the Borg wouldn't be able to adapt, just regenerate.

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Death Star...Death Star...Oh yes! You mean the station that was destroyed twice by a ragtag bunch of Rebel pilots right?

Oh I agree, I'm sure a faction that specialises in learning and adapting to everything would have a real hard time taking one down.
The second one needed it's shields down for the fighters to get inside, with the shields up it was impossible, besides the Borg have no fighters on screen.

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Lt. Commander
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# 44
02-07-2013, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stodatapiocard View Post
Think up reasons why! my 10 are:

10. Darth Vader has only one sphere, the Death Star. The Borg have thousands upon thousands of spheres AND cubes. (Geometric shapes seem to be a favorite among villans...)

9. Those light sabers are kinda primative compared to phasers. Why have a sword when you can have a gun?

8. Star Trek has five series and a lot more movies.

7. The Federation vs. The Force. Idiot Vader wouldn't have a chance!

6. Star Trek's technology is much more advanced. What's so bad about transporters saving you life, anyway?

5. The graphics in Voyager alone are just as good as those in the re-made version of Star Wars.

4. Vulcans, Carrdasions, Klingons, Romulans, Remons, Jem Hadar (I could go on like forever)

3. DOMINION!!!!!!!

2. There is more than one way to get around...from star ships to shuttles to transporters...from warp to transwarp to slip stream...

And the Number One Reason Why Star Trek is Better Than Star Wars:

"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the-"


We are the Borg. Resistance as you know it is over. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile.


I am Vader of Borg, resistance, is futile.
I forgot about the Dyson Sphere, that thing is big enough to cover the sun and and all the planets in our solar system.



(Bye the way you idiots who like star wars better than Star Trek should go play one of the many crappy games they have instead of the number one multi-player game. STO)
Lt. Commander
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# 45
02-07-2013, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by stodatapiocard View Post
I forgot about the Dyson Sphere, that thing is big enough to cover the sun and and all the planets in our solar system.



(Bye the way you idiots who like star wars better than Star Trek should go play one of the many crappy games they have instead of the number one multi-player game. STO)
lasers & blasters? vs 1.1 Phasers
1.2 Pulse cannons
1.3 Phase cannons
1.4 Phase pistols
1.5 Phased polaron cannon
1.6 Disruptors
1.7 Varon-T disruptors
1.8 Lasers
1.9 Electric Whip
2 Projectile weapons
2.1 Photon torpedoes
2.2 Chroniton torpedoes
2.3 Polaron torpedoes
2.4 Gravimetric torpedoes
2.5 Plasma torpedo
2.6 Quantum torpedoes
2.7 Spatial torpedoes
2.8 Transphasic torpedoes
2.9 Phased plasma torpedoes
2.10 Positron torpedoes
2.11 Isokinetic cannon
2.12 TR-116 Projectile Rifle
3 Biological, radioactive, and chemical weapons
3.1 Thalaron radiation
3.2 Metreon cascade
3.3 Trilithium resin
3.4 Cobalt diselenide
3.5 Aceton assimilators
4 Melee weapons
4.1 Federation
4.1.1 KaBar combat knife
4.1.2 Katana
4.2 Jem'Hadar
4.2.1 Bayonet
4.2.2 Kar'takin
4.3 Klingon
4.3.1 Bat'leth
4.3.2 D'k tahg
4.3.3 Qutluch
4.3.4 Mek'leth
4.4 Romulan
4.4.1 Teral'n
4.5 Vulcan
4.5.1 Lirpa
4.5.2 Ahn'woon
4.6 Other
4.6.1 Ushaan-tor
4.6.2 Mortaes and Thongs
4.6.3 Glavin?


star wars sucks
Lt. Commander
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# 46
02-07-2013, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by stodatapiocard View Post
lasers & blasters? vs 1.1 Phasers
1.2 Pulse cannons
1.3 Phase cannons
1.4 Phase pistols
1.5 Phased polaron cannon
1.6 Disruptors
1.7 Varon-T disruptors
1.8 Lasers
1.9 Electric Whip
2 Projectile weapons
2.1 Photon torpedoes
2.2 Chroniton torpedoes
2.3 Polaron torpedoes
2.4 Gravimetric torpedoes
2.5 Plasma torpedo
2.6 Quantum torpedoes
2.7 Spatial torpedoes
2.8 Transphasic torpedoes
2.9 Phased plasma torpedoes
2.10 Positron torpedoes
2.11 Isokinetic cannon
2.12 TR-116 Projectile Rifle
3 Biological, radioactive, and chemical weapons
3.1 Thalaron radiation
3.2 Metreon cascade
3.3 Trilithium resin
3.4 Cobalt diselenide
3.5 Aceton assimilators
4 Melee weapons
4.1 Federation
4.1.1 KaBar combat knife
4.1.2 Katana
4.2 Jem'Hadar
4.2.1 Bayonet
4.2.2 Kar'takin
4.3 Klingon
4.3.1 Bat'leth
4.3.2 D'k tahg
4.3.3 Qutluch
4.3.4 Mek'leth
4.4 Romulan
4.4.1 Teral'n
4.5 Vulcan
4.5.1 Lirpa
4.5.2 Ahn'woon
4.6 Other
4.6.1 Ushaan-tor
4.6.2 Mortaes and Thongs
4.6.3 Glavin?


star wars sucks
I sure would like to see Armored Voyager make pancakes out of the star destr-

oh wait never mind just saw it.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...42080656,d.eWU
Captain
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# 47
02-07-2013, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stodatapiocard View Post
lasers & blasters? vs 1.1 Phasers
*Snip*star wars sucks
Okay that's just stupid, copying a list of weapons is incredibly silly, that's not even including the fact that if you did the same from the SW wikia you would end up with far more, maybe several 100.

Besides lists are not a reason by themselves

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# 48
02-07-2013, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by artan42 View Post
Death Star.
It kinda invalidates any arguments about the Borg.
big round ball that shoots a primative LASER? How can they get any less origanal.
Captain
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# 49
02-07-2013, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stodatapiocard View Post
big round ball that shoots a primative LASER? How can they get any less origanal.
Super laser not laser, and it destroys planets and is encased in a moon sized battlestation that has an engine that enables it to travel across the whole galaxy faster than it would take a Fed ship to travel across a bit of a quadrant, oh and armour and shielding that means an entire Rebel Fleet couldn't take it out.

(Unless the commander was a moron with an external shield)

Yup primitive

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Captain
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# 50
02-07-2013, 01:50 PM
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Plus the capital ship weapons on ISD's appear to be actual projectiles not energy, so the Borg wouldn't be able to adapt, just regenerate.
Turbolasers are energy weapons, basically massively scaled-up blaster pistols.

It'd be interesting to see how well a Borg Cube could cope with a full volley from the Ion cannons, though. Glorified cyborgs being hit by ionised particles that fuse joints and cause short circuits... can't see it ending well for them.
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