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Captain
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# 51
02-07-2013, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dma1986 View Post
Turbolasers are energy weapons, basically massively scaled-up blaster pistols.

It'd be interesting to see how well a Borg Cube could cope with a full volley from the Ion cannons, though. Glorified cyborgs being hit by ionised particles that fuse joints and cause short circuits... can't see it ending well for them.
In ROTS you can see the spent shells from the turbolasers on the gundecks.
From what I can tell from the EU the turbolasers, and by extension most capital ship weapons, are explosive shells wrapped in energy to propel them at their target.

I think the ion canon however is energy so the Borg could adapt to it after a few shots, though reasonably it could instantly disable any cube it hits, the bigger question is can you remodulate a ion cannon?

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# 52
02-07-2013, 02:03 PM
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In ROTS you can see the spent shells from the turbolasers on the gundecks.
From what I can tell from the EU the turbolasers, and by extension most capital ship weapons, are explosive shells wrapped in energy to propel them at their target.
Sure they're not empty Tibanna Gas canisters?
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I think the ion canon however is energy so the Borg could adapt to it after a few shots, though reasonably it could instantly disable any cube it hits, the bigger question is can you remodulate a ion cannon?
From the Wookiee:An ion cannon was a weapon which fired highly ionized particles or highly ionized plasma.
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# 53
02-07-2013, 02:11 PM
http://st-v-sw.net/STSWcompare.html all the answers you will ever need
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# 54
02-07-2013, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by user839020189287 View Post
Star Trek?

Star Wars?

Space:1999
I actually liked Space 1999 too. I have the first season on DVD. Insane premise, (moon blown out of orbit by a nuclear explosion) but I thought it was a good show, at least the first season.
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# 55
02-07-2013, 02:15 PM
One thing I have noticed throughout the SW vs ST debates I've been involved in (both on Trek forums, Wars forums, and neutral forums) is that the people that are fans of both franchises tend to make good points, fans exclusively of Wars make sensible points but can concede some parts of Trek are better, and fans of ST make points such as:

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Star Wars Sucks
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Originally Posted by stodatapiocard View Post
star wars sucks
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(Bye the way you idiots who like star wars better than Star Trek should go play one of the many crappy games they have instead of the number one multi-player game. STO)
So yeah... I think Wars wins in a "whose fans can debate better?" debate.
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# 56
02-07-2013, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by coupaholic View Post
Death Star...Death Star...Oh yes! You mean the station that was destroyed twice by a ragtag bunch of Rebel pilots right?

Oh I agree, I'm sure a faction that specialises in learning and adapting to everything would have a real hard time taking one down.
Comparing sci-fi characters/tech to each other can bee a silly argument, but I have to agree with you on this one. The borg would easily defeat the death star.
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# 57
02-07-2013, 02:22 PM
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The only thing I like about Star Wars more than Star Trek?

No Time Travel.
...and Hyperspace is much faster than warp (whatever).
...and starships in SW have mechanical parts instead of colored displays with pictures of stuff.
...and leia's bikini is hotter than 7of9's bodysuit.
...and fighters in SW are a threat.
...and people grow and eat stuff in SW as opposed to eating food suppliment 47 from a replicator.
...and SW has more driods.
...and SW ships all use cannons.
...and dirt or burn marks on your ship in SW give it character.
...and lightsabers deflect energy better than shields.
...and Trek is devoid of any higher power where SW has the force.
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# 58
02-07-2013, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ivana5 View Post
http://st-v-sw.net/STSWcompare.html all the answers you will ever need
It would be all the answers you need, if it covered enough of the EU.
Considering it uses the "small ships can't have cloaks" thing, it obviously doesn't include ships such as the TIE Phantom... a ship created for a game released in 1995.

Also, Wars has a way of detecting cloaked vessels: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crystal_gravfield_trap
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# 59
02-07-2013, 02:56 PM
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So yeah... I think Wars wins in a "whose fans can debate better?" debate.
Bear in mind that is 3 quotes from the OP, don't you be painting all us Trekkies with the same brush now
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# 60
02-07-2013, 03:07 PM
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It would be all the answers you need, if it covered enough of the EU.
Partially because the site dismisses most licensed works other than the official movie novelizations as "non-canon" despite the current official state of SW canon including most such works except when explicitly overridden by "higher-canon" material.

Also, they seem to not quite realize what strategic weapons are. The Death Star is the epitome of a strategic weapon... one that the Empire hoped they only had to fire once (and then twice...). TIE Bombers are tactical weapons, like the torpedo planes from WWII.
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