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# 11
02-08-2013, 10:11 AM
STO needs more space madness, space madness is cool -straightens bow tie-
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# 12
02-08-2013, 10:52 AM
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Yes yes yes yes yes!

That ship is sweet, I've loved it for a long time!
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# 13
02-08-2013, 12:10 PM
I think a Miranda can hang with a Ferengi Marauder. And they're certainly capable of taking on a Galor in a firefight, so really, this discussion is based on some warped idea of ship tiers that Cryptic broke a long time ago.

Put a Miranda in a lottery lockbox with some other fancy stuff, and viola, instant excuse for a top tier Miranda.

This game doesn't follow the rules you all seem to think it does.
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# 14
02-08-2013, 12:28 PM
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STO needs more space madness, space madness is cool -straightens bow tie-
I had a crazy idea for a Tier 5 Miranda. To keep the orginal feel of a balanced cruiser\escort\science vessel, instead of giving it 5 BO slots, cmd, ltc, 2 lts, ens, give it 3 cmd slots, 1 sci, 1 tac, 1 eng. As a RA ship, it would also have 3 of each console to keep the balance. It would keep dual cannons, give it +5 power to all and sensor analysis or maybe Sub systems targeting. Weapons would be 4 fore, 3 aft, ie in the middle, and 3 device slots.
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# 15
02-08-2013, 12:31 PM
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Once the Dominion War kicked off, they became even more of a death trap than Oberths historically had been during TNG. I mean that ship existed so the Enterprise D had something to shake their heads and tut at because they'd been so unfortunate and screwed over so hard by events, i.e. space madness, swirly energy thing from binary star, space madness, bird of prey (ok that wasn't TNG but still), wonky cloaking accidents, and also space madness. Did I mention space madness?

The Miranda fared a little better, right up until DS9 when they were cannon fodder with warp nacelles. Those things got taken down by the dozen. Even in Kirk's era, they were a budget starship, a mid-weight ship. Anything it could do, a Connie could do better. That's what made Khan laying a smack down on the Enterprise such a shocker, since he did it in a worse ship. In STO, Kirk'd likely have called hax and reported Khan to a GM.

That said, there's so much that made it to tier 5 since the Fleet system came into being that I don't suppose there's many good reasons to exclude anything at this point. If a Sabre or Nova, ships that canonically were inferior to contemporary ships like the Defiant or Prometheus or Intrepid are now just as tough as them, then what's the point of saying anythings too old? Hell, KDF-side I could fly a D7, a class retired by TMP.
I just wish that they hadn't made all the minor ships appear to have NO SHIELDS during the battles...

That looked stupid to me, not Cool.

What Captain would go into battle with out shields raised.

Every time that happened, it pushed me beyond the make-believable zone into the Jackass Producer/Director zone.

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# 16
02-08-2013, 01:07 PM
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wow that looks, well, sexy GIMME

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I find this line of replies sadly hilarious. We put a lot of work into the massive list of fixes/changes above, and ya'll are hung up on the ability to skip our content. =p
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# 17
02-08-2013, 01:14 PM
Beautiful ship --- but what's the OBSESSION with Trek "insignia-shaped" saucers there days?
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# 18
02-08-2013, 04:25 PM
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Why not? You yourself stated they fought at alongside the Defiant at the battle for DS9, they fought the Borg defending Earth in First Contact, etc etc etc. Why couldn't it be as powerful as a saber? Or a Ferengi Marauder? Or a Vulcan science ship? The whole idea of what can or can't be a VA ship has decayed so much with the lockbox lotto that I'm not really sure why it's worth a debate anymore. The Miranda will be less powerful than a Galor or a Bug Ship or whatever. So it should be a-OK in terms of what's what. Howbout this, make it an RA ship instead? One bump below the VA, sort of. And definitely below whatever pops out of a lottery box.
I like this idea please make it so
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# 19
02-08-2013, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by veldrane2k View Post
I had a crazy idea for a Tier 5 Miranda. To keep the orginal feel of a balanced cruiser\escort\science vessel, instead of giving it 5 BO slots, cmd, ltc, 2 lts, ens, give it 3 cmd slots, 1 sci, 1 tac, 1 eng. As a RA ship, it would also have 3 of each console to keep the balance. It would keep dual cannons, give it +5 power to all and sensor analysis or maybe Sub systems targeting. Weapons would be 4 fore, 3 aft, ie in the middle, and 3 device slots.
Dude that's crazy.
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# 20
02-08-2013, 05:32 PM
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Beautiful ship --- but what's the OBSESSION with Trek "insignia-shaped" saucers there days?
They've used up the Round & Oval ones?
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