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# 11
02-08-2013, 02:52 PM
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but you're right, im sure starfleet went and spent tons of resources and time to develop an upgrade to a ship class that was outmatched in every category by the Sovereign.

and they said "F the treaty" and built them with cloaking devices...
Just because the Gal-X isn't balanced properly in-game doesn't mean it's functionally inferior to the Sovereign by design.

Anyway, even if there is a functioning Romulan government that's still named under the Treaty of Algeron, we've also been at war with that government as demonstrated by the Romulan front missions. When you're at open war with another government, treaties mean very little, especially regarding such valuable wartime technologies as a cloaking device.

As far as Warship Voyager goes... there's absolutely no way that the Federation is even aware of such a design. That information existed hundreds of years in the future, in a civilization that obviously had limited to no contact with Starfleet proper, else the records would already have been amended. It's even less plausible than having the Dauntless show up in-game, since at least Voyager had some information on that ship.

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# 12
02-08-2013, 02:56 PM
It could be a mirror universe version of the Intrepid, like the Mobius is a mirror universe version of the Wells. Let's face it, that's how the Terran Empire would build it.

Using the same conversion formula as Wells -> Mobius, with a Fleet Intrepid as base, it would have stats something like this:

Hull: 32,670
Shield Modifier: 1.04
Weapons: 4/3 (dual cannons enabled)
Crew: 200
Boffs: Com Tac, Lt Tac, En Tac, Lt Eng, LtCom Sci
Device Slots: 2
Consoles: 3 Eng, 3 Sci, 4 Tac
Turn Rate: 12
Bonus Power: +10 weapon, +5 aux

It would obviously be an escort-type, so no science vessel inherent skills. As for a console, it could be the Assault Probes they used in the episode...too bad it wasn't shown what it is they do. Or maybe the bioweapon deployed through the phaser arrays.

And of course, owning one should unlock the relevant ship customiser parts for other Intrepid-class ships. Althoug
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# 13
02-09-2013, 02:57 AM
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As far as Warship Voyager goes... there's absolutely no way that the Federation is even aware of such a design. That information existed hundreds of years in the future, in a civilization that obviously had limited to no contact with Starfleet proper, else the records would already have been amended. It's even less plausible than having the Dauntless show up in-game, since at least Voyager had some information on that ship.
...not to mention the "technical data" on Warship Voyager is the equivalent of a small kid drawing a Sherman tank with ten gun barrels, wings and a jet engine.
Yes, you can draw this but that's not even remotely the same as a construction plan.
Nor does it actually represent what was possible to build at the time.
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# 14
02-09-2013, 03:10 AM
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...not to mention the "technical data" on Warship Voyager is the equivalent of a small kid drawing a Sherman tank with ten gun barrels, wings and a jet engine.
Yes, you can draw this but that's not even remotely the same as a construction plan.
Nor does it actually represent what was possible to build at the time.
The quoted specs with the ridiculous number of torpedo tubes and such were pure BS, yes. But visually it's basically an Intrepid with heavy cannons in place of the phaser strips. It's not an implausible design, and would in fact fit well in the typical DHC-loaded STO escort model.
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# 15
02-09-2013, 03:55 AM
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The quoted specs with the ridiculous number of torpedo tubes and such were pure BS, yes. But visually it's basically an Intrepid with heavy cannons in place of the phaser strips. It's not an implausible design, and would in fact fit well in the typical DHC-loaded STO escort model.
Take another look.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/...ng_Witness.jpg

Please look more closely: the (for lack of a better term) superfluous weapons don't replace anything.
The strips the Intrepid class really has are also present.
Thus the ship is supposedly armed with 25 Phaser banks.
That's implausible unless the ship has a 70 million light year umbilical cable to the next starbase hidden somewhere we can't see it.
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# 16
02-09-2013, 04:50 AM
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Take another look.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/...ng_Witness.jpg

Please look more closely: the (for lack of a better term) superfluous weapons don't replace anything.
The strips the Intrepid class really has are also present.
Thus the ship is supposedly armed with 25 Phaser banks.
That's implausible unless the ship has a 70 million light year umbilical cable to the next starbase hidden somewhere we can't see it.
Well, a gray line is present where the saucer dorsal phaser strip would be. It's pretty obvious they just tacked on those extra bits to the base Intrepid model. But whether that strip is operational or not is another matter, its partially blocked by the add-ons. In any case the ship was only ever seen firing from its large cannons.

As I already said, the quoted specs were total BS. Though a federation ship could have 25 "phaser banks," if they were not combined into long strips. Nor does having 25 weapons mean the ship has to have power to fire them all at once. No ship in canon is ever seen firing all their phaser arrays at once. The torpedo launcher count was more absurd in that regard, if for no other reason then because it would never be able to carry ammo for so many.
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# 17
02-09-2013, 04:57 AM
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Well, a gray line is present where the saucer dorsal phaser strip would be. It's pretty obvious they just tacked on those extra bits to the base Intrepid model. But whether that strip is operational or not is another matter, its partially blocked by the add-ons. In any case the ship was only ever seen firing from its large cannons.

As I already said, the quoted specs were total BS. Though a federation ship could have 25 "phaser banks," if they were not combined into long strips. Nor does having 25 weapons mean the ship has to have power to fire them all at once. No ship in canon is ever seen firing all their phaser arrays at once. The torpedo launcher count was more absurd in that regard, if for no other reason then because it would never be able to carry ammo for so many.
Unless they were mounted in single shot disposeable launchers, like rocket pods.

That would be a neat thing to see fire.

As for the ship...its would be a cool costume but I doubt it would be so...scorty..hmm new word.
Actualy reading things pefore posting will make you look smarter than yelling loudly. Reading comprehension is aparently a lost art.

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# 18
03-09-2013, 01:14 PM
Bottom LINE is CRYPTIC... I will pay you 25.00 for this ship MAKE IT ! Give it 5 Tatical consoles and a slight bump in hull and here's my money. TAke it.. Heres my money.. Cryptic... PLEASE lol
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# 19
03-09-2013, 01:22 PM
If I could fly an escort that looked like an Intrepid, I'd pay 25 bucks for that, yes.
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# 20
03-09-2013, 01:49 PM
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Bottom LINE is CRYPTIC... I will pay you 25.00 for this ship MAKE IT ! Give it 5 Tatical consoles and a slight bump in hull and here's my money. TAke it.. Heres my money.. Cryptic... PLEASE lol
Why 25 when they can put it in the box and get 250
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