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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Hello,
I'm currently saving Zen for an Excelsior cruiser (unless I get a ton of recommendations against it). My question is, if you have this ship, what do you think of it? I've heard a lot of good things about it.

ALSO, if I buy the C-store version, (I want it to be account wide obviously) can I get the fleet version for 1 fleet module? Just asking because the fleet starbase price seems to be 5 FMs, (different from the other fleet ships) so I wanted to make sure the pricing is not different somehow for this ship. Thanks for your help!


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# 2
02-09-2013, 11:43 PM
Not gonna lie. I hate the excelsior. She's ugly. She's ancient. And she really should just be retired. However the in-game version? As much as I hate saying this, it's a very good ship. She can tank very well, and deals acceptable damage. She has the best maneuverability (on paper) of any fed cruiser, and is arguably one of the best damage dealers (out of fed cruisers). She will serve you well. Provided you can stand her appearance.

And it is true, if you own the VA excel, the fleet version only costs 1 FSM.
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# 3
02-09-2013, 11:50 PM
Buying the c-store version will allow you to get the fleet version for 1 module with every character.

It's a great ship, it comes as top recommended along with the fleet assault cruiser and the odyssey for federation style cruisers. The bridge officer seating is a bit weird, but it's definitely workable.

Really it comes down to what you want in a cruiser, do you want more offensive capabilities, or some of the best tanking in the game?

Offensive cruisers=Excelsior and the assault cruiser fleet versions.

Tankers=Odyssey and the fleet galaxy, these are also better at healing.

Somewhere in between the two is the fleet heavy cruiser imo.
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# 4
02-10-2013, 12:07 AM
Been flying around in one for nearly 3 years.

She's great.

She always looks so proud of herself. Some mistake her for being weak, until she opens fire. >=3

I got her for her looks mainly as a T3, but she has proven to be a real work horse. Turn rates is ok, and I've out maneuvered escorts with her, even before I got the Borg engines. Was using the Breen super-cooled engines. Very movable on half impulse on any engine.

Transwarp Drive is great, has a lot of useful locations to go to, a real time saver at times.
Only problem is that sometime it will fail..........like in ST 3............there's a Scotty in the engine, so yeah, she randomly fails to go to Transwarp. Not often maybe once every few weeks, depends on how much you engage it. But she's worth it. Worth enough for me to spend mopney on her T5 version about 2 and a half years ago.

Like any ship, as long as you buff her good and pick up some self thought tactics, she'll always bring you home. =3
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# 5
02-10-2013, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
Not gonna lie. I hate the excelsior. She's ugly. She's ancient. And she really should just be retired. However the in-game version? As much as I hate saying this, it's a very good ship. She can tank very well, and deals acceptable damage. She has the best maneuverability (on paper) of any fed cruiser, and is arguably one of the best damage dealers (out of fed cruisers). She will serve you well. Provided you can stand her appearance.

And it is true, if you own the VA excel, the fleet version only costs 1 FSM.
110% agree, especially the "hate" part.

I think cryptic made excel too good compared to other non STO era ships, especially the Galaxy. In STO the Excel is superior in almost any way, while it should be the other way round. I don't get what Cryptics devs where thinking.

Personally i never liked it's appearance, i hated it in 1984 and i still hate it today.

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# 6
02-10-2013, 12:18 AM
An amazing ship. Only hated by futuretrolls and the only thing bad about it is that useless Ensign Engineer.
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# 7
02-10-2013, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by yreodred View Post
110% agree, especially the "hate" part.

I think cryptic made excel too good compared to other non STO era ships, especially the Galaxy. In STO the Excel is superior in almost any way, while it should be the other way round. I don't get what Cryptics devs where thinking.

Personally i never liked it's appearance, i hated it in 1984 and i still hate it today.
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# 8
02-10-2013, 06:11 AM
Imho the Excelsior, especialy its Fleet version is on of the best Cruisers ingame.
It can dish out alot of damage and it tanks well . And it is quite nimble for a cruiser.
And the advanced Transwarp is so much fun even when it breaks down (does happen but its rare). Its the federation cruiser most suited to a cannon build. However i prefer beams and a mixture of offensive universal consoles and science powers to increase damage.

No matter what it is well suited for Engineering Captains and Tactical Captains.
Its a matter of taste but i like the Excelsiors look alot.
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# 9
02-10-2013, 07:02 AM
The Excelsior is one of the top cruisers fedside. IMO it's the best, but that's debatable.


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# 10
02-10-2013, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nikephorus View Post
The Excelsior is one of the top cruisers fedside. IMO it's the best, but that's debatable.
For Fed-side tactical cruisers, it's either the Fleet Excelsior or the Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit (Imperial class), depending on whom you ask.

The Excelsior is also far more of a love-hate ship than the AC-Refit, as far as I've seen... if you don't like the Regent or Imperial skins on the (F)ACR, you can always switch to the Sovereign, but the Excelsior draws a lot of ire for having exactly two skins, both of which are from the late 23rd century instead of the late 24th/early 25th. That and the ship (with such an old frame) being competitive with the Sovereign and generally accepted as superior to other new Fed cruisers such as the Odyssey and Galaxy.
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