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# 1 Federation Cloaking Device
02-10-2013, 10:49 PM
Okay, let me first open this by saying this. No I am not another whining Federation player who wants a advanced battle cloak for Federation Starships.
Now I will make my point.
Since the Federation is aiding the Romulans on New Romulus. How about making the Cloaking Device from the Tactical Escort Retrofit able to be installed on to any Federation starship. Or, incorporate a cloaking device in to the Reputation system along with a Plasma Quad Cannon.

This would take care of a lot of issues.
1) Shut those whining Federation players up.
2) Make the Romulan Tactical Boffs worth obtaining for a Federation player.
3) Expand the available equipment on the Reputation stores. Having a Cloaking Device would also allow KDF players to unlock the Cloaking Device for ships that does not come equipped with Cloaking Devices.
4) This would also make it possible for non-Federation and Non-KDF hulls (Breen Chel Grett, Jem'Hadar, Cardassians, Farengi)i to be equipped with Cloaking Devices.

Plasma Quad Cannon
The Plasma Quad Cannon is a piece of equipment that should of been included in the Reputation store from the very beginning.

Last edited by trwarbuck; 02-10-2013 at 10:51 PM.
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# 2
02-11-2013, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by trwarbuck View Post
Okay, let me first open this by saying this. No I am not another whining Federation player who wants a advanced battle cloak for Federation Starships.
Now I will make my point.
Since the Federation is aiding the Romulans on New Romulus. How about making the Cloaking Device from the Tactical Escort Retrofit able to be installed on to any Federation starship. Or, incorporate a cloaking device in to the Reputation system along with a Plasma Quad Cannon.

This would take care of a lot of issues.
1) Shut those whining Federation players up.
2) Make the Romulan Tactical Boffs worth obtaining for a Federation player.
3) Expand the available equipment on the Reputation stores. Having a Cloaking Device would also allow KDF players to unlock the Cloaking Device for ships that does not come equipped with Cloaking Devices.
4) This would also make it possible for non-Federation and Non-KDF hulls (Breen Chel Grett, Jem'Hadar, Cardassians, Farengi)i to be equipped with Cloaking Devices.

Plasma Quad Cannon
The Plasma Quad Cannon is a piece of equipment that should of been included in the Reputation store from the very beginning.
No, you're not one of those whining Fed player who wants a battle cloak.. you're worse because now you want cloak for all other Fed ships... Goodness me..

The cloaking discussion has now risen a few levels.. *takes popcorn*
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# 3
02-11-2013, 04:01 AM
I'm kinda happy leaving cloaking devices to the Defiant class of escorts, I wouldn't want them on my other ships as they have different operational uses. It would be cool if my cloak didn't drop every time one of my crew wants to talk to me though...

As for Quad cannons, again Defiant class only, but it would be nice to be able to get better quads than we get on the refit.
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# 4
02-11-2013, 05:30 AM
No, no, no and no, you stop right there!
The federation should not have cloack, not because it would make them overpowered, but because in the serie, the federation don't use cloack.
The only exeption is the defiant ( cloack that is given by romulan ) and the galaxy dread from the alternate timeline.
I don't like to said this usualy but here, if you really want a cloak that bad, go to klingons side, or find a ship where you can optimize mask energy signature3, at more than 4km it is exactly like a cloack.
cbs will never allow this anyway, so stop waisting your time.
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# 5
02-11-2013, 05:40 AM
I think CBS might allow it. I mean after all the first time the feds helped the Rommies they got a cloak so why not now?
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# 6
02-11-2013, 05:56 AM
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I think CBS might allow it. I mean after all the first time the feds helped the Rommies they got a cloak so why not now?
The first time we saw the Federation help the Romulans was in "The Enemy" and they didn't get a cloaking device.

Also, "The Path to 2409" made it clear that when it was revealed the Federation had secretly experimented with cloaking devices the Romulans were so upset they withdrew their representatives.
And at that time the Federation had already sent a buttload of ships to help the Romulans.
Why would they now suddenly turn around and just GIVE them cloaks after they were so upset about the Federation developing one?
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# 7
02-11-2013, 06:06 AM
Because D'Tan isn't a secretive douche who would rather turn down help than give something in return. Also this is the NEW romulan faction not the old one which is all menacing and stuff you guys can't seem to get that apparently.
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# 8
02-11-2013, 06:19 AM
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Because D'Tan isn't a secretive douche who would rather turn down help than give something in return.
Last time I checked the Federation didn't do this to extort cloaking devices from the Romulans.
They helped...well to help not to get something out of it.

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Also this is the NEW romulan faction not the old one which is all menacing and stuff you guys can't seem to get that apparently.
Meaning...what?
The Federation is there to help them regardless whether they are wiling to give up one of the few technological edges they have.
Given they probably lost a whole lot of industral as well as R&D capabilities with their homeworld, what they have in terms of technology is even more precious.
So does being NEW Romulus mean they're dumb enough to give away what little edge they have left because doing so doesn't change anything in their favour but dimishes their advantage?
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# 9
02-11-2013, 08:11 AM
The feds should have cloaks on a mass scale and everyone knows it. The only time they get it is for plot convenience, and the overall concept of cloaking technology is plot convenience in favor of the bad guys.


With that said, cloaking devices are devices of war. It doesn't make sense for the most of starfleet ships to be using them. But it also makes no sense that klingons would be using them. Hiding like a coward is not honorable. Plot convenience.


So, as before I do believe that the treaty with the romulans is null and void. But, as long as cloaking functions the way it does in game I don't really overly care much about getting it more freely. If I feel the need to cloak I'll just use the defiant or switch over to my klingon. Plus there's always the uniqueness factor at play. Any faction outside of the federation needs all the help it can get to motivate people to use them.
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# 10
02-11-2013, 08:19 AM
Well if feddies get the adv. cloak for all their ships I want it for all KDF ships as well. Since the Feds have proven themselves devoid of any civility by using their precious AI as suicide bombers maybe they should see how painful it can be to die when the shields drop just before the cloak activates.

I think the KDF should get emission seeking cluster torpedos as well.
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