Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,474
# 11
02-10-2013, 06:42 AM
I've got the Fleet version.

It's a beautiful ship, IMO. The silhouette reminds me of a heron.

Performance-wise, it's one of the best turning Federation cruisers. As somebody who plays both sides of the fence this makes me face-palm endlessly because the Negh'var, the KDF's "slow cruiser", turns even better.

Decent hull, decent shields.

The ensign engineer is a pain in the butt due to the fact that almost all ensign engineer abilities are fighting for the same cooldown and Cryptic won't listen to our ideas for fixes. I feel like I'm fighting one slot short because of this.

The LTC tactical gives you twice as many options as most cruisers (since your first slot is always always always Tactical Team). I went with attack pattern beta 2, and high yield 2 (which really packs a whallop with the romulan hyper-plasma torpedo).

The improved transwarp drive is both a blessing and a curse. It's GREAT for chasing down colonization and support doff missions! ... And it forces you to spend one of your active space slots on an astrometric scientist which has no combat relevance whatsoever or to switch constantly between fights.

The console layout is obviously all about causing damage. You've got your armor and you've got your pew pew. The ship is very light on science consoles, which is actually somewhat relevant now with the outstanding threat-scaling consoles. Dedicated tanks need not apply.

Soooo... Has some personality quirks but probably the best Federation cruiser for flying around and feeling like you're doing something. Better options available if you like being a brick or healer
Republic Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2012
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# 12
02-10-2013, 07:37 AM
Fantastic ship, and I think it looks great too. Transwarp is always useful. Got a lot of use out of my retrofit and fleet versions. Now I am onto the Fleet Assault Refit though, as I prefer the ensign slot being a tac instead. Yes, it is up there with the Fleet Assault and the Galor as the best cruisers available to feds.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 891
# 13
02-10-2013, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by djf021 View Post
Hello,
I'm currently saving Zen for an Excelsior cruiser (unless I get a ton of recommendations against it). My question is, if you have this ship, what do you think of it? I've heard a lot of good things about it.

ALSO, if I buy the C-store version, (I want it to be account wide obviously) can I get the fleet version for 1 fleet module? Just asking because the fleet starbase price seems to be 5 FMs, (different from the other fleet ships) so I wanted to make sure the pricing is not different somehow for this ship. Thanks for your help!
It's a great fed PvE DPS cruiser, tying with the Regent in my opinion. As a fed cruiser it's a dream to fly with it's good turnrate. While the tactical Odyssey can also be made into a very good DPS cruiser with the aid of the saucer seperation console, the consoles cooldown kinda restricts it's usefulness. Also the fleet excelsior and regent get an extra tactical console.

Then there's the regents innate transwarp ability, which makes doffing faster. It's because of this innate ability that it normally costs 5 FM.

Personally I prefer the regent for the extra tactical station (I like flying with two ensign tactical teams and two offensive tactical powers), but the better turnrate of the excelsior is very helpful.

Also I personally prefer the look of the excelsior to the majority of the T5 cruisers, which look way too fancy, overdeveloped and aerodynamic. Don't get me wrong, it's not as nice looking as the Ambassador class and the Constitution class, but I really prefer it's look to the Odyssey.
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Ensign
Join Date: Jan 2013
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# 14
02-12-2013, 01:06 PM
Makes me wonder what the best loadout for this ship would be, as a Tac/escort captain my experience is really limited. Didn't take me long to work out that to convert dil to enough zen to buy the ship and also buy fleet weapons for it would use up all of my Dilithium
Survivor of Remus
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 340
# 15
02-12-2013, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sovereign010 View Post
Makes me wonder what the best loadout for this ship would be, as a Tac/escort captain my experience is really limited. Didn't take me long to work out that to convert dil to enough zen to buy the ship and also buy fleet weapons for it would use up all of my Dilithium
Well, there are a few ways to go and you can always buy cheaper white or green mk xi consoles/weapons on the exchange to test out folks ideas.

Personally, I think that beams are substandard enough that running a 2 torp/6 turret layout using cannon tac abilities will get you better DPS and more procs than running a 2 torp/6 beam layout. It will also mean you can pretty much just concentrate on positioning as you'll deal roughly the same DPS no matter what direction you're facing. The Excelsior's better turn rate means you'll have an easier time bringing your torpedoes to bear or rotating wounded shields out of the way.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 836
# 16
02-12-2013, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by yreodred View Post
110% agree, especially the "hate" part.

I think cryptic made excel too good compared to other non STO era ships, especially the Galaxy. In STO the Excel is superior in almost any way, while it should be the other way round. I don't get what Cryptics devs where thinking.

Personally i never liked it's appearance, i hated it in 1984 and i still hate it today.
No it's not a beauty queen... it's your daddy with a machine gun! IT'S SERIOUS and gonna get the job done!

I love it, it's tanks well as any other and I have never felt the need to add an RCS console to it... which means you get 1 more slot for some other more useful console.

A nice plus is to be able to Transwarp to all the major systems including Tau Dawa. Unlike the T3 version, the Transwarp never fails.

Besides the looks, you'll never regret getting the ship.

The Galaxy's need another Tac console to start making sense.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 17
02-12-2013, 04:52 PM
I love the ship when I bought the lesser one. So my self is currently saving up for the Refit version. After long thoughts about it. I'm getting the Excelsior as well. Since it will offer a more Eng. based layout. Which I don't have on my Fed. Later I might pick up the Refit Galaxy to play around with. But that will be a much later purchase.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 41
# 18
02-12-2013, 05:03 PM
The Fleet Excelsior is pretty much the best PVE cruiser fedside, outside of lockbox ships. It's tough as bricks, it's nimble, and aside from the worthless enisgn engy slot it basically has a perfect BOFF layout. Get the right build and setup going (and this won't be cheap, mind you...) and you can compete with escorts in damage while being tough as a cruiser. The Regent is really its only competition, and it just doesn't quite match up (extra tac console, but at the cost of science console which are a lot more useful these days; worse turn; and an ensign tac isn't much better than an ensign engie). Even the non-fleet version is pretty damn good, and competes pretty well with fleet ships.

Also it's the best looking Trek ship bar none, if you're old enough to appreciate the best 70's styling has to o
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 128
# 19
02-12-2013, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mandoknight89 View Post
For Fed-side tactical cruisers, it's either the Fleet Excelsior or the Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit (Imperial class), depending on whom you ask.

The Excelsior is also far more of a love-hate ship than the AC-Refit, as far as I've seen... if you don't like the Regent or Imperial skins on the (F)ACR, you can always switch to the Sovereign, but the Excelsior draws a lot of ire for having exactly two skins, both of which are from the late 23rd century instead of the late 24th/early 25th. That and the ship (with such an old frame) being competitive with the Sovereign and generally accepted as superior to other new Fed cruisers such as the Odyssey and Galaxy.
And the Fleet Ambassador coming.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 59
# 20
02-12-2013, 06:28 PM
The Fleet Excelsior is amazing. I bought it a few weeks back and I do NOT regret it. I may have also spent enough EC for 5 ships with all of the testing to get a good set up on it, but it was well worth it.

I'm running 3 Cannons and a Torp in the front with 3 Turrets and the Kinetic Cutting Beam on the Aft.

It runs great in PVE, mainly STFs. I am able to get a good dps out without being a sitting duck with the turn rate being a great plus factor. Also it can take a good beating.

I strongly suggest that OP buys the C-Store variant and a Fleet Module for the Fleet Excelsior. Its probably one of the best ships by far and I am pretty positive that it wont be out classed anytime soon. And if it does, it will still probably compete with it toe to toe.

Now the look is debatable. I personally like it ,but a more updated skin for the ship would be great and would fix the grief that many people have about it.
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