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# 101
02-12-2013, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesdax View Post
At least the Odyssey is a newer ship. The Galaxy is out classed first by the Excelsior and now the Ambassador both older ships. It's just makes no damn since at all. smdh
::: cough cough .... station wagon ... ::; cough cough.

Even an older sports car will out run a newer station wagon or mini van.

Seriously ... Blame Starfleet ship designers for choosing to make a bus that had room for families.

A HUGE thank you to Cryptic for the Mogh-class battle cruiser!
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# 102
02-12-2013, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by genhauk View Post
::: cough cough .... station wagon ... ::; cough cough.

Even an older sports car will out run a newer station wagon or mini van.

Seriously ... Blame Starfleet ship designers for choosing to make a bus that had room for families.
smdh

That's some bullcrap right there.
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# 103
02-12-2013, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesdax View Post
smdh

That's some bullcrap right there.
You don't see KDF battle cruisers with enough room to carry families do you? ... Scantly clad Orions ... maybe ... Targs ... definitely.

(( shoves the BortaS into a closet so it cannot be viewed ))

A HUGE thank you to Cryptic for the Mogh-class battle cruiser!
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# 104
02-12-2013, 03:09 PM
I'm incredibly impressed with this news. The 5 modules was worrisome, but now that that bits over and done with I can just be happy they are getting the proper tier 5 treatment, and even better, new skins. The ship modeling team has really outdone themselves these past few months, they deserve some champagne or something.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
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# 105
02-12-2013, 03:39 PM
I will be getting this day one for sure.
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# 106
02-12-2013, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cross821 View Post
I will be getting this day one for sure.
But...WHY? It is still outclassed by the Fleet Excelsior...(both in firepower and movement).

Could the Devs maybe UP the inertia??? (Since they have already cracked the gavel on any attempts to +1 the turn-rate) by declaring: "Thou shalt have a crappy 7 turn rate!"

The hull does NOT need to be increased. 39.5K hull is FINE just where the free version was. I think 95% of players would keep the hull unchanged in exchange for a +1 turn, or the like.

-----------------------------------------------

Fleet Kamarag Battle Cruiser

Can Equip Cannons
Extra Universal Consoles
Base Turn Rate: 10.5 degrees per second
Cloaking Device
+10 Weapon Power, +10 Engine Power


VS.


CRAP-assador Fleet Support Cruiser Retrofit

+4,950 hull
+1 Device Slot
+5 to All Subsystem Power



Hmmmmm...When compared there's no argument that the Kamarag OUTCLASSES Ambassador. It's actually disgusting. I would GLADLY TRADE the extra hull and the device slot to get an extra Universal Slot, a +3.5 base turn, Cannon-use, and +10 Weapon Power.

What would YOU rather spend YOUR MONEY on??? I think its blatently obvious which ship is the better bang for the buck.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/dofftrader/yoreantiques/DOFFtrader.gif

Last edited by paragon92518; 02-12-2013 at 04:13 PM.
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# 107
02-12-2013, 04:04 PM
The game needed a 5-eng console ship, and the Galaxy was it.

Each of the iconic ships got 5 consoles in their representing specialty. That was it.

The Galaxy sucks not because it sucks stat-wise, but the game doesn't play to its strengths as this is Star DPS Online.
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What should I wish upon the endless universe;
To be able to smile and forgive everything;
That's right, if we light up the dream in our hearts without averting our eyes;
We should be able to walk whatever tomorrow comes...

I am V. Adm. Kha Yuung, and I approve of this message.
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# 108
02-12-2013, 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paragon92518 View Post
But...WHY? It is still outclassed by the Fleet Excelsior...(both in firepower and movement).

Could the Devs maybe UP the inertia??? (Since they have already cracked the gavel on any attempts to +1 the turn-rate) by declaring: "Thou shalt have a crappy 7 turn rate!"

The hull does NOT need to be increased. 39.5K hull is FINE just where the free version was. I think 95% of players would keep the hull unchanged in exchange for a +1 turn, or the like.
Its one of my all time fav ships thats why. I have the Fleet Excelsior and yes it really good. Tho is not a fire power ship it is a Support ship so you really can't even put the Excelsior and Ambassador in the same light.
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# 109
02-12-2013, 04:14 PM
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Well, no one has rights on a forum. Everyone is bound by term of use agreements. The forum master could ban you for three days for using the letter 'E' too much in a sentence if he decided to make it a term of use violation.

Our concerns, in the long run, really don't matter. You could count on one hand the amount of legitiment concerns that have been addressed in the 3 years this game has been live. Still waiting on a complete KDF faction; a concern that has been around for 3 years. Yes, we really do matter, apparently.

Well, first you have to make money somehow and there are only but so many clothing items in the Star Trek universe you could sell.

And, atleast with the Ambassador class, the masses wanted a fleet variant. Look back in the forum at around the time the Ambassador was confirmed. A lot of people wanting a fleet variant. In this case, people's concerns were addressed since money could be made off of it.

It all comes down to money. Some may view something as price gouging, but there are always enough people that will buy said product to justify a developer gouging prices even further.
Actually people do have rights on the forums set out by the Terms of Service. But apparently some people just want to be jerks. I can think of a couple people right now. I guess some people think they need to be jerks to get their point across (which shows how weak their point is altogether).

Claiming that only a handful of concerns have been addressed is simply not true. In this thread alone they addressed the concern everyone had of the cost being too much. Half the devtracker responses are addressing concerns from the players. They just don't address many concerns that won't make them money.

As far as the top-tier gear having to be paid so the company can make money, they claimed they were making profit even back when they were subscription. They claim they've always been making profit, so having the top-tier ships require cash isn't necessary. Charging us for anything we, as players, want in the game makes the game not f2p anymore.

But it sounds to me that you agree the game is Pay2Win. If you're okay with admitting that, then you have nothing further to add. Cryptic and the rest of the community just need to admit it.
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# 110
02-12-2013, 04:32 PM
Man.. now I have to join a fleet. =(

I really want a Yamaguchi.
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