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# 151
02-12-2013, 10:26 AM
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Plus it couldn't have happened, all the 24th century Romulans went down with the Nerada.
What makes you say that? I doubt every Romulan in the galaxy was on Romulus at the time of its destruction.
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# 152
02-12-2013, 10:31 AM
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What makes you say that? I doubt every Romulan in the galaxy was on Romulus at the time of its destruction.
I think they are confusing the mourning tattoos Nero's crew had with the structural formation on the Romulan forehead. Yes, all the Romulans who traveled through time on the Narada are gone.

If all the 24th century Romulans are gone, then there would be no Romulans in STO.

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# 153
02-12-2013, 02:59 PM
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Well, my personal theory is some kind of genetic mutation due to some unknown reason... like environmental factors on Romulus and/or Remus... maybe the Romulans just had to have some Augment DNA too, after all those darn Klingons got it !

I also think that working in the mines for generations is what made the poor Remans
so fugly....

And just so you know, of course we Q are above limiting concepts such as time but we also like to be entertained.... so we rarely peek what's going to happen next... most of the time...
One fan-theory is that the split between Romulans and Vulcans involved more than ideology. That the ancient race had a certain inherent variability that was lost when they split apart. Thus the split was, at least in part, a split between sub-species of the race.

Why? Well, Vulcans are apparently fundamentally different from Romulans. Romulans CAN'T do mind melds. It's not that they lack the training, it's that they CAN'T learn it. The idea here is that Surak's followers were the subset of society with the strongest psionic abilities, and that the future Romulans were those with weaker abilities.

Romulans appear to be somewhere around halfway between humans and Vulcans in terms of physical strength. Which may have to do with the gravity of the worlds they grew up in.

But..... a lot of TOS era Vulcans AND Romulans wore headgear that obscured their foreheads. Why? Maybe it's purely decorative, maybe.... truthfully, it'd be a retcon if it involved forehead ridges though.

One interesting thing with the ridges is that they vary a lot in prominence. Some are barely noticeable(Cretak and Neral) while others grab your attention and throttle it(Valdore)....

Anyways, the basic idea is that prior to the racial split there were some vulcanoids who had the ridges and some that didn't, and that most of the ones that did went to Romulus.

Check this out: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/in..._evolution.htm
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# 154
02-12-2013, 04:42 PM
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yes you're right actually, jake sisko marries a black bajoran woman in 'the visitor'

and you're right about gowron, he's about 2 bottles of blood wine away from shouting at strangers in a bus station. at least he's dressed for the part..
Have to admit, I'm surprised that no other Klingon had had the stones to assassinate him before Worf put him out of his misery... The guy was a political liability, and must've been a nightmare to watch in power, what with his opinions of people shifting like quicksilver. I can imagine there were more than a few people who wound up being demoted or ostracized through no fault of their own, other than one of Gowron's crazy tantrums... Centauri Emperor Kartagia (sp?) was equally a complete loon, but at least one knew where one stood with him, but Gowron was as likely to turn on a friend as he was an enemy
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# 155
02-12-2013, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by markhawkman View Post
One fan-theory is that the split between Romulans and Vulcans involved more than ideology. That the ancient race had a certain inherent variability that was lost when they split apart. Thus the split was, at least in part, a split between sub-species of the race.

Why? Well, Vulcans are apparently fundamentally different from Romulans. Romulans CAN'T do mind melds. It's not that they lack the training, it's that they CAN'T learn it. The idea here is that Surak's followers were the subset of society with the strongest psionic abilities, and that the future Romulans were those with weaker abilities.

Romulans appear to be somewhere around halfway between humans and Vulcans in terms of physical strength. Which may have to do with the gravity of the worlds they grew up in.

But..... a lot of TOS era Vulcans AND Romulans wore headgear that obscured their foreheads. Why? Maybe it's purely decorative, maybe.... truthfully, it'd be a retcon if it involved forehead ridges though.

One interesting thing with the ridges is that they vary a lot in prominence. Some are barely noticeable(Cretak and Neral) while others grab your attention and throttle it(Valdore)....

Anyways, the basic idea is that prior to the racial split there were some vulcanoids who had the ridges and some that didn't, and that most of the ones that did went to Romulus.

Check this out: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/in..._evolution.htm
I forget where I read it, but I'm sure I saw somewhere that when those who became Romulans separated from their Vulcan brothers, they rounded up and eliminated those with telepathic abilities, effectively removing the trait from the gene pool (although I'm sure that there probably are still a handful of Romulans with the telepathic gene.

Do you mean Commander Donatra, who commanded the warbird Valdore? I must admit, that it wasn't until the credits rolled at the end, that I realized that she was portrayed by Dina Meyer Sure, she looked beautiful, but I'd never have recognized her...
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# 157
02-12-2013, 05:12 PM
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I forget where I read it, but I'm sure I saw somewhere that when those who became Romulans separated from their Vulcan brothers, they rounded up and eliminated those with telepathic abilities, effectively removing the trait from the gene pool (although I'm sure that there probably are still a handful of Romulans with the telepathic gene.

Do you mean Commander Donatra, who commanded the warbird Valdore? I must admit, that it wasn't until the credits rolled at the end, that I realized that she was portrayed by Dina Meyer Sure, she looked beautiful, but I'd never have recognized her...
That may have been one of the books...

I actually meant Admiral Valdore, from Ent.
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# 158
02-12-2013, 05:25 PM
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That may have been one of the books...

I actually meant Admiral Valdore, from Ent.
I know I read it online, but it certainly might have been in reference to one of the books

Ahh, my mistake... The actor who portrayed Valdore has quite heavy features, it might be that they did his prosthetics to be equally prominent, so as to be consistent to his other features
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# 159
02-12-2013, 05:29 PM
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Here's a question i was a little embarrassed to ask. however... the more people i asked, the more people i found out don't know. How do you post a new thread in sto forum?
If you enter a section (eg "The Academy"), there should be a "new thread" button near User CP. Your account might not be able to do it yet.
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